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Let's say, contrary to all reason and suppositions that indicate otherwise, that he DID get up and tell us to pack our bags and hop off to Independence. What then?
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As a question such as that is contextual, the context is relevant. Because it won't happen in a vacuum.
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Why would you be so presumptuous that you would suppose I am unfamiliar of the texts concerning apocalyptic warnings in the Old Testament, New Testament, D&C, BoM and other varities? Apocalyptic prognostications have been around at various times, including the time of Isaiah, pre-exile, Jeremiah exilic period, and post-exilic period, including the apocalyptic teachings of Christ and of the Revelator. Exactly which apocalyptic teaching would like to discuss.
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"One thing that always worries me from an empirical perspective (I am after-all an empirical economist so I really can’t help myself) is the “matching of signs” methodology people focus on and use to suggest the second coming is close. Most of the signs in scripture are general enough or at least can be interpreted in a general enough way that they can be applied to virtually every moment in history (and it seems like they have been). What am I missing in terms of the usefulness of things like “signs” of the second coming? Why might they be important? Does Joseph Smith Matthew focus on the importance of signs or is the chapters focus on something else" At one time, I found apocalyptic literature fascinating, but early NT saints thought the Second Coming was upon them until the destruction of the temple. Scholars discount apocalyptic literature because they don't believe God would give existing saints something meant for three thousand years later, unless it is meant to be sacramentalized.
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How did you glean that from my words? Speaking of King of Distortions.
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More like King of Confusion. My brain is too small to comprehend what your point was.
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The fact that it's unlikely isn't the point. I think it is about as likely to happen as BYU switching to the option, or the Utes winning the Super Bowl. Besides, I'd be careful in saying what will never happen-- Bruce R. McKonkie seemed to think some things wouldn't happen before the millenium and had an awful big egg on his face when he turned out to be wrong.
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