The Church's financial situation

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

Is it just me, or is this just the latest vehicle du jour for people to express their Utah-County-angst?

Probably Utah County is not better or worse than most counties.

And that is the problem.

God expects his people to be better than average, I would think.

[Indy Coug]

Isn't Provo-Orem usually high on the Best Places to Live list?

[All-American]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Isn't Provo-Orem usually high on the Best Places to Live list?

Of course it is. There aren't any homeless people around to spoil the atmosphere.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Isn't Provo-Orem usually high on the Best Places to Live list?

How much stock do you put in these rankings?

http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/s...e-660836.shtml

Bryan-College Station was ranked 14th in the United States and first among Texas cities, in the newly published book "Cities Ranked and Rated" by Bert Sperling and Peter Sander.

Wood said the Bryan-College Station has been ranked highly several times in the past.

The area was ranked No. 1 by Southern Business and Development in the category "Top Southern Metro Business Climates Regardless of Size," and was No. 1 in the "Small Markets" category.

Southern Business & Development ranked Bryan-College Station No. 1 in the category "Top Southern Metro Business Climates Regardless of Size."

It also ranks No. 1 in the "Small Markets" category, areas with populations less than 200,000. Business Week listed Bryan-College Station as one of 12 "Pockets of Prosperity."

College Station was ranked ninth by Men's Journal in the 50 Best Places to live, Wood said.

Roland Mower, president and CEO of the Research Valley Partnership, said
Bryan-College Station was ranked 14th, one place behind communities that make up the "research triangle" in North Carolina.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by All-American

Of course it is. There aren't any homeless people around to spoil the atmosphere.

Maybe the economy, church and sense of community has already reduced those numbers without the aid of homeless shelters.

[All-American]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Maybe the economy, church and sense of community has already reduced those numbers without the aid of homeless shelters.

Or, maybe they moved off to where they weren't going to run into a bunch of hard nosed Mormons that wonder why they aren't going to their bishop instead of bothering them.

Or, they've all frozen to death, thus decreasing the surplus population.

There was an article in the Deseret News last week showing that Utah was among the last in the states when it came to welfare given by the government to the needy. Clearly, the church is a factor in that, but to think that the money from two meals every month exempts us from our duties to aid the less fortunate is awfully tenuous, don't you think?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by All-American

Clearly, the church is a factor in that, but to think that the money from two meals every month exempts us from our duties to aid the less fortunate is awfully tenuous, don't you think?

Where did I say that exempted us from anything? I'm just trying to point out that the presence of imperfections in Utah County or elsewhere, without any point of reference or useful context, is relatively meaningless.

This board seems particularly fond of the "gotcha" approach; using the anecdotal evidence of a shortcoming in a community, church or political candidate and trying to milk it beyond all reason. That's a very unbalanced way of viewing things and serves no real constructive purpose, IMO.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

This board seems particularly fond of the "gotcha" approach; using the anecdotal evidence of a shortcoming in a community, church or political candidate and trying to milk it beyond all reason. That's a very unbalanced way of viewing things and serves no real constructive purpose, IMO.

Don't forget to point out how different this is from CB.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

Don't forget to point out how different this is from CB.

There's a fair amount of "gotcha" over there too, but allegedly this site has more intelligent people that are capable of more intelligent arguments.

[pelagius]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

There's a fair amount of "gotcha" over there too, but allegedly this site has more intelligent people that are capable of more intelligent arguments.

What you said in general may be true but I really thought the MW was engaging in a jeremiad and the comment should be understood in that light. Was it over the top? Of course, but it should be understood within the literary genre that MW picked.