Church makes gays and their children apostates

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

The signaling on this is awful. Many teens are baptized even though their nonmember parents don't believe. The parents consent to their teen's baptism and it happens.

We have a teenager in our ward who attends church every week and scouts. But he is not baptized because his father does not consent.

We have an excommunicated male who attends with his family every week.

Apostle Todd Christofferson's excommunicated brother attends church with his gay partner.

There are all kinds of people who attend.

Another problem with this is putting one group of people into a specific bucket giving them different requirements. What bout the child of an unwed parent? What about the child of two persons living together who are unmarried? Should their be language requiring them to disavow the circumstances of their parents?

I imagine there will always be exceptions. I recall the CES Fireside where Elder Oaks said he often receives letters like, "Thou shalt not kill is a commandment, but the D&C says to obey the laws of the land and now those laws are drafting me into war, what do I do?"

I wonder if this issue is the Orson Hyde "test" prophesy, which was later quoted by Presidents Young, Kimball, Benson, and Hinckley. (Paraphrasing) "there is a test coming in the last days, a real test, and half of church membership will fall away."