BYU stays at #15 in Coaches' poll

[ute4ever]

Originally Posted by scottie

But you said he has the Pirates in the lead. You must have found that guy on Google after I pointed out that BYU is the highest non-BCS school ranked in the Coaches' poll.

Okay you got me there. I read the BCS Guru's analysis and posted that East Carolina now has the BCS lead amongst mid-majors. Afterwards, you began this thread pointing out that notwithstanding the overall formula, BYU still has the lead in one of the many factors used in creating that BCS formula: the Coaches Poll.

'Tis true, BYU leads in that one category. Would this be a good time to point out that one of the BCS computers, the Colley matrix, has Utah #2?

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

Okay you got me there. I read the BCS Guru's analysis and posted that East Carolina now has the BCS lead amongst mid-majors. Afterwards, you began this thread pointing out that notwithstanding the overall formula, BYU still has the lead in one of the many factors used in creating that BCS formula: the Coaches Poll.

'Tis true, BYU leads in that one category. Would this be a good time to point out that one of the BCS computers, the Colley matrix, has Utah #2?

What silly criteria is the Colley Matrix using? Wake Forest in the top 5? Utah as #2? USC at 36? NEBRASKA as #1?

Did they use a randomizer?

[ute4ever]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Did they use a randomizer?

Yep, it's completely random. Here is a 23-page analysis of how the randomization works.

FWIW, his final Top 5 from last season were:
1. LSU
2. VA TECH
3. GEORGIA
4. OHIO STATE
5. MISSOURI

And his top 5 from hoops in April were:
1. UNC
2. MEMPHIS
3. KANSAS
4. UCLA
5. TENNESSEE

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

Yep, it's completely random. Here is a 23-page analysis of how the randomization works.

FWIW, his final Top 5 from last season were:
1. LSU
2. VA TECH
3. GEORGIA
4. OHIO STATE
5. MISSOURI

And his top 5 from hoops in April were:
1. UNC
2. MEMPHIS
3. KANSAS
4. UCLA
5. TENNESSEE

Clearly, however he determines his rankings, they work better after the entire season has been played and are totally useless at this point in the season.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

You have a fair point: East Carolina leads in one poll, while BYU leads in the other. But that is only part of the BCS formula, and the BCS Guru who tracks the computer data et al has the Pirates in the lead.

actually the ap poll is in no way shape or form part of the BCS anymore so....

[ute4ever]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

My biggest fear is that BYU will get too much respect. If they go to a BCS bowl, I hope they get the crappy one like Utah did. A game against a team they should beat. The ACC looks like they could provide a team that has no business in a BCS bowl (like when the Utes played Pitt). I don't want them to play a team like Florida or Oklahoma and get worked. We have a legitimate Top 10 offense and about a #50 defense. I wouldn't mind playing the Big 10 champion, especially if its Ohio State. I think BYU would beat them 10-14 points at home, 7-10 points on a neutral site, and 3 points in the Horseshoe.

A legitimate concern.