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[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Well there's the official dictionary definition and the functional definition.

The functional definition of racism is using race as a basis to treat a person of one race worse than another.

isn't insinuating that an athlete is good because of his race doing that?

[SeattleUte]

FYI, here's a prior thread where we discussed these issues ad nauseum including Santos' twisted ideas about race.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthr...ghlight=Africa

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

isn't insinuating that an athlete is good because of his race doing that?

Even if it could be scientifically proven that certain subpopulations are inherently more athletic than others?

If I'm a suntan lotion businessman, do I market most of my products in Nigeria or Utah?

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Even if it could be scientifically proven that certain subpopulations are inherently more athletic than others?

If I'm a suntan lotion businessman, do I market most of my products in Nigeria or Utah?

I guess you don't understand the point either....BTW I would market suntan lotion in Utah over Nigeria because Utahns have more money

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Santos' post was way out of bounds. Apart from the fact that it reflects ignorance in terms of the empirical evidence, it hasn't been mentioned that this kind of talk is just plain offensive to educated people, especially educated blacks. This is enough reason for people to keep such uninformed opinions to themselves. No one should want to put a "kick me I'm an ignoramous" sign on themselves.

Santos is on record declaring eveyone to be a racist so what do you expect?

You're a joke.

First, teach me why I don't understand the empirical evidence.

Next, the problem with your group of educated people is that they're afraid to talk about racism. If you do bring it up, you have to do it in a way to prove that their are no differences whatsoever. Ignoring data is a silly way to live, IMHO.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

I guess you don't understand the point either....BTW I would market suntan lotion in Utah over Nigeria because Utahns have more money

In the interest of trying to keep you from being dense again, let's assume that both peoples had an equal amount of exposure to sunshine and an equal amount of disposable wealth.

Given that assumption, where do you market your lotion?

[Solon]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

FYI, here's a prior thread where we discussed these issues ad nauseum including Santos' twisted ideas about race.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthr...ghlight=Africa

Damn. I could have saved my typing time and gotten some work done. It's all been said before.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

FYI, here's a prior thread where we discussed these issues ad nauseum including Santos' twisted ideas about race.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthr...ghlight=Africa

You're very similar to the Mormon who is afraid to death to admit they sin because they have no way to compartmentalize it. They view sin as only the "big ones" that evil people do. Just admit you're a racist and that you're humbly trying to understand those with other perspectives as much as possible and minimize the damaging effects your racism has on others as much as possible.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by jay santos

You're very similar to the Mormon who is afraid to death to admit they sin because they have no way to compartmentalize it. They view sin as only the "big ones" that evil people do. Just admit you're a racist and that you're humbly trying to understand those with other perspectives as much as possible and minimize the damaging effects your racism has on others as much as possible.

No subject brings the kooks and crack pots out of the woodwork like this one. How better to show that you, grapevine and Indy are peas in a pod? You think you're so smart and enlightened go to Harvard square and preach your world view and see how long it takes before they ostracise you like a plague carrier. Solon and I and MRD are the ones who have mainstream thought on our side. Racists have always had reams of "data" and associated goof ball conclusions to support their positions.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Below is a list of the 20 players with the most appearances for Brazil, as of March 28, 2006:
# Name Career Caps Goals
1 Cafu 1990 - 2006 142 5
2 Roberto Carlos 1992 - 2006 125 11
3 Cláudio Taffarel 1987 - 1998 101 0
4 Djalma Santos 1952 - 1968 98 3
5 Ronaldo* 1994 - present 97 62
6 Gilmar 1953 - 1969 94 0
7 Pelé 1957 - 1971 92 77
= Rivelino 1965 - 1978 92 26
9 Dida* 1995 - 2006 91 0
= Dunga 1982 - 1998 91 6
11 Zé Roberto* 1995 - present 84 6
12 Aldair 1989 - 2000 81 3
= Jairzinho 1963 - 1982 81 33
14 Leão 1970 - 1986 80 0
15 Bebeto 1985 - 1998 75 39
= Nílton Santos 1949 - 1962 75 3
17 Rivaldo* 1993 - 2003 74 34
18 Emerson* 1997 - present 73 6
= Ronaldinho* 1999 - present 73 29
20 Branco 1985 - 1994 72 9
= Zico 1971 - 1989 72 52

Only 3-5 of them are of western aftrican descent....

You're a better soccer fan, than I am, obviously. Maybe I was wrong. I'm thinking of guys like Pele, Ronaldo, Rhonaldino, Roberto Carlos. I wonder what the % of Brazilians with West African blood in them is? I don't know Brazil that well. I would have thought that West African descent would be overrepresented on the Brazil soccer team, but I may be wrong.