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I've always suspected Waters was a genius. I think the irony was clearly intentional.
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the "twin relics of barbarism" that Lincoln's Republican party was committed to ending: slavery and polygamy.
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Talk about sycophantic . . .
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This is what had surprised me a ltitle aboutthe supposed support fo rthe confederacy. Based on materials I had read from the period, even though the Republicans and the press waged a vigorous propaganda war agains these twin relics, the contemproary wirtings of mormons I had seen from the time period pledged abiding suport to the consitution and its sanctity. I didn't see a lot of States Rights stuff (at least not in the convetional sense), which was what the confederacy hung its hat on. I never have sutdied it systematically, however, but it did suprise me a litte bit.
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When I think of Lincoln, I think of his good friend Orville Browning, who helped found the Republican Party. Oh yeah, I also remember that Browning sucessfully defended some of the members of the Carthage mob against murder charges in the deaths of Joseph and Hyrum.
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Do you deny Waters' statement was terrific, including the irony?
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Yes. Becasue if it is intended to be ironic and was not sincere, than his whole act here is largely inexcusable. It is a 'brillaince' founded in ridicule and misstatement that he should find embarassing. I think you are working too hard for this.
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No. It's just my lame attempt at being provocative.
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SOrry, I was on my own self-righteous kick and missed it.
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