I really have zero respect for Islam

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

becuase moderate voice of islam draw low attention ,while extremists voice are heard every where even they are making an extremely small portion of a one and half billion muslims..guess why?

The most prominent voice of moderate Islam in the United States is CAIR. Take a look at their website and see if they are more concerned about the actions of Muslims or non-Muslims.

http://www.cair-net.org/

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Show me one Islamic nation that allows proselyting by Christians.

Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Brunei. Not to Muslims but they do allow Christian proselyting.

[BlueHair]

Another point. Mormons have used the fear that early members felt as justification for the MMM. What's the difference? The Muslim nations have very good reason to fear Christians.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If the "religious culture" of major swaths of people in predominately Muslim countries believe in honor killings, that's good enough for me.

By their fruits you will know them. Murder is a bad fruit.

So Mormons should be known for their fruits of Utah's high rates of bankruptcy, anorexia, quack medicine, etc.?

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

How are moderate views even allowed to speak in Iran?

The image of Islam is that of a cavedwelling madman in Pakistan, willing to kill at the slightest movement without provocation.

It is not the image of the peaceful Al-Ghazali, preaching spiritual refinement to meet God.

Moderates will be overrun by radicals if moderates don't become more active.

achiving hight ability to recognise God through heart doesnot mean you will have to surrender to oppression ,or keep quite when you see injustice you probably mixing up sufism and ignorance /carelessness
just tell me what would you expect the people around the world to do for you ,if you were a palestinaian or an iraqi or an afgan.

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by YOhio

The most prominent voice of moderate Islam in the United States is CAIR. Take a look at their website and see if they are more concerned about the actions of Muslims or non-Muslims.

http://www.cair-net.org/

i found it this guy quite informative ,you may be willing to take a look in here as well.
http://youtube.com/results?search_qu...&search=Search

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Brunei. Not to Muslims but they do allow Christian proselyting.

I know about Malaysia, and Indonesia, because we have missionaries there, but Brunei and Pakistan?

Interestingly, no Arab nation allows it and no Persian nation allows it.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

achiving hight ability to recognise God through heart doesnot mean you will have to surrender to oppression ,or keep quite when you see injustice you probably mixing up sufism and ignorance /carelessness
just tell me what would you expect the people around the world to do for you ,if you were a palestinaian or an iraqi or an afgan.

If these peoples were allowed to convert to Christianity, they would adopt traditions that would enrich them personally and monetarily. They would rise up out of their poverty, become more peaceful and be able to work within the world order.

[ChinoCoug]

Christian charity, or misinterpretations of Christian charity ("turn the other cheek"). Used to make the oppressed docile and subservient. This was taught to African slaves as the proper response, while the white man walks all over him. Islam teaches you to fight back. That's why the black militancy movement adopted Islam as its ideology. Most muslims don't consider the Nation of Islam orthodox, but that's beside the point.

Muslims have done a better job than churches in purging drug use from black communities.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

Another point. Mormons have used the fear that early members felt as justification for the MMM. What's the difference? The Muslim nations have very good reason to fear Christians.

They have more to fear from their own totalitarian leaders than they do from Christians.