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Tex · 10-12-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

Is it a problem in Mormonism that women don't do enough around the house? I doubt it.

Link?

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Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

I think she had no idea that the things she was saying would be controversial.

Outside of CG bubble, link?

Jeff Lebowski · 10-12-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Link?

Outside of CG bubble, link?

Responding with "Link?" when someone expresses an opinion has got to be one of the stupidest responses possible. Please.

Tex · 10-12-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Responding with "Link?" when someone expresses an opinion has got to be one of the stupidest responses possible. Please.

And I thought you were trying to be nice to/ignore me.

The implication of "Link?" is that the assertion is bunk. IOW, she didn't say women don't do enough around the house, and there is no controversy (outside of CG).

"Link?" is much more succinct.

Jeff Lebowski · 10-12-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

And I thought you were trying to be nice to/ignore me.

The implication of "Link?" is that the assertion is bunk. IOW, she didn't say women don't do enough around the house, and there is no controversy (outside of CG).

"Link?" is much more succinct.

When he asks a rhetorical questions and then adds "I doubt it", he is clearly expressing his opinion. Why on earth is any kind of link necessary?

Tex · 10-12-2007, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

When he asks a rhetorical questions and then adds "I doubt it", he is clearly expressing his opinion. Why on earth is any kind of link necessary?

His opinion on whether women don't spend enough time in the house is not in question. The implication that Beck said such, is.

Indy Coug · 10-12-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Responding with "Link?" when someone expresses an opinion has got to be one of the stupidest responses possible. Please.

Since I'm a prime "offender", I often respond with "Link?" because someone makes a comment which implies they are basing it on something they have read or learned, rather than a off-the-cuff opinion; and rather than just make a quick response to what they've said, I prefer to read more on the subject before formulating a response.

EDIT: Sometimes, I also ask just to see if they aren't just full of crap when they claim something specific (i.e. not offered as opinion) but sounds too outlandish to be true.

Black Diamond Bay · 10-12-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Since I'm a prime "offender", I often respond with "Link?" because someone makes a comment which implies they are basing it on something they have read or learned, rather than a off-the-cuff opinion; and rather than just make a quick response to what they've said, I prefer to read more on the subject before formulating a response.

EDIT: Sometimes, I also ask just to see if they aren't just full of crap when they claim something specific (i.e. not offered as opinion) but sounds too outlandish to be true.

I thought it was a good talk. I still think it was a good talk, and people are blowing this all out of proportion. She didn't say anything that I thought was even a little bit offensive. Even the stuff about cleaning. IMO, men generally aren't any good at cleaning anyway. Women do a better job at it, so they probably should be spearheading the efforts to make sure the home isn't turning into a dump.

SoonerCoug · 10-12-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Outside of CG bubble, link?

Don't you read the newspaper, Tex?

http://www.sltrib.com/lds/ci_7150554?source=rv

Ace Tomato Co. · 10-12-2007, 08:14 PM

Good post Santos. I also didn't think the talk was offensive.

As an aside, it seems curious to me that Beck is getting all the attention here. Would it change people's opinion of the talk if they knew that all the talks are vetted by the upper-ups?

Beck's talk was approved before it was given. I spent conference weekend going to a couple of sessions with the sons of a Q70 who spoke on Saturday - his talk was read beforehand and approved.

This doesn't erase the fact that Beck wrote and believes the talk, but it does illustrate that the talk was definitely church-approved.

SoonerCoug · 10-12-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Tomato Co.

This doesn't erase the fact that Beck wrote and believes the talk, but it does illustrate that the talk was definitely church-approved.

And this somehow makes it better?

10-12-2007, 08:14 PM	#19
Ace Tomato Co. Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 54	Good post Santos. I also didn't think the talk was offensive. As an aside, it seems curious to me that Beck is getting all the attention here. Would it change people's opinion of the talk if they knew that all the talks are vetted by the upper-ups? Beck's talk was approved before it was given. I spent conference weekend going to a couple of sessions with the sons of a Q70 who spoke on Saturday - his talk was read beforehand and approved. This doesn't erase the fact that Beck wrote and believes the talk, but it does illustrate that the talk was definitely church-approved. __________________ "You're not gonna start humming the theme to Jeopardy are you?"