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As to the MTN: you're welcome, and sorry it wasn't better news.
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I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than needs to be made. It smacks of political correctness. Nearly everyone admits they understand what she was "trying" to say, but just not "how" she said it. Seems like a lot of nit-picking.
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What is the mission, if not marriage prep?
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People are going to defend it because it didn't offend them personally or because it came from on high, but the basic nuts-and-bolts contentions of the talk are simplistic and shortsighted. I'm sure Beck is a nice enough lady, but she didn't come off very well. I'd guess that one of the last things she would have wanted would have been to instigate the (sometimes bitter) arguments that she did. She might have come off differently than she had anticipated, but that doesn't change the fact that she chose her words poorly.
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If one believes that every word of general conference is divinely inspired, they have to agree with absolutely everything that is said and give up your ability to reason. On the other hand, if one believes that much of what is said represents the opinions of the speakers, the entire weekend, and indeed, the entire concept of divine revelation becomes very suspect, since there's no way to distinguish between opinions and words from on high. |
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Well http://eyring.hplx.net/Eyring/faq/evolution/FP1909.html would be a decent start. That was an official first presidency statement, similar to the proclamation on the family. It turned out to be completely wrong. If they had done some research, they should have recognized it as being completely wrong even then. There was also the one confirmed even on CB of one of the prophets declaring that we would never go to the moon because god wouldn't allow it. I can't find a link at the moment. Most of what BRM ever said was wrong too, for example. They were also very, very wrong about blacks, another topic which was discussed quite thoroughly on CB recently. Their stance on homosexuality has changed quite a bit as well, and I think they're still on the wrong side of that issue.
I could go on, but that isn't my point. If you don't want to accept "often," at least accept "often enough for a rational person to wonder." |
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