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Old 10-23-2007, 05:11 PM   #11
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:12 PM   #12
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If you really don't want to do it, how about declining the calling. If there is something else you would rather do, ask if you could do that. If you don't want a calling altogether, then tell them. Short, simple, and honest. That should keep them at bay for a long time.

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I did this once, too. It only worked for a while.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:13 PM   #13
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You, sir, are on a roll today.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:15 PM   #14
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I thought if I had a beard, I wouldn't get called to anything. Then I was called to be the High Priest Group Leader. And in the interview with the SP, he asked me to shave my beard.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:15 PM   #15
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If you really don't want to do it, how about declining the calling. If there is something else you would rather do, ask if you could do that. If you don't want a calling altogether, then tell them. Short, simple, and honest. That should keep them at bay for a long time.

I'm serious.
I have thought about this quite a few times. Especially when I caught wind of my last calling. But when I got in there and looked at our good bishop who dedicates so much of his time to service, I just couldn't look at him and claim that I didn't have the time. And of course, he gives me the old "I just can't think of anyone else who could do this..." guilt-trip-inducing line. Then again, I would probably resort to such tricks if I were in his shoes trying to staff a ward.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:18 PM   #16
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Keep a file cabinet full of documents, memoirs and printouts from questionable websites which casts the leaders of the church in the worst light possible. Let the bishop know you try to disseminate those "gotchas" whenever and wherever possible and that the EQ would be a perfect venue to help balance out the propoganda manual the church distributes on the Prophet du Jour.

Tell him it's in the interest of the membership to be immunized and you have just the gamma globulin the doctor ordered and reassure him that the cure is actually better than the disease.
Indy, you seem to be really sensitive about the "mullah" label. But then you go and post bullshit like this. Go ahead and be honest. Embrace your mullah-ism.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:20 PM   #17
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Indy, you seem to be really sensitive about the "mullah" label. But then you go and post bullshit like this. Go ahead and be honest. Embrace your mullah-ism.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:23 PM   #18
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Don't be too social at Church. Keep people guessing. NEVER attend an activity. If your ward is the last to meet in the building, never help pick up chairs (even when asked).
I'm not particularly social at church, and I never attend activities. I have, unfortunately, volunteered to pick up chairs and go to the local church welfare farm.

After I told my dad about the calling (and how I had hoped to remain just a EQ teacher in the ward we have just recently moved into), he shed some light on the subject. Being a young professional virtually forces you into more responsible callings, it's unavoidable. In my last ward, I was called into the Stake Young Men's presidency. At stake meetings with the leadership I was the youngest guy there by probably around 10 years. A guy at my work got called into the bishopric at the age of 31 last year (one year older than me). Another guy at work who's in his late 30s who joined the firm last year was a bishop at the ward he just moved out of.

This has convinced me that I need to pick the brain of my wife's boss, figure out the secret. Unfortunately, I think that it might be the wife. Apparently the wife of my wife's boss has some issues with depression and their marriage hasn't been particularly close because of these issues. My wife is the model of female emotional stability and is an exceptionally kind-hearted person.

So, given this suspicion I won't be picking his brain to find out the secret.

With all this said, I realize that EQ presidency is NOT a big calling and fairly standard for a guy of my age. But the ward I'm in is likely to split when a new building opens up in January. Fortunately, I live in the area of the ward with almost all the leadership.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:27 PM   #19
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I have thought about this quite a few times. Especially when I caught wind of my last calling. But when I got in there and looked at our good bishop who dedicates so much of his time to service, I just couldn't look at him and claim that I didn't have the time. And of course, he gives me the old "I just can't think of anyone else who could do this..." guilt-trip-inducing line. Then again, I would probably resort to such tricks if I were in his shoes trying to staff a ward.

I once asked to be released from a leaderwship type calling when I entered what I now call my SU phase or, in lennon-esque terms, my lost decade. At the time, I didn't feel like I could honestly do what I needed to do as a leader. THe bishop reluctantly agreed and I sort of went off on a voyage of self-discovery and meditative consideration (this part is not a joke). Eventually I came back to the gopsel, but I decided not to tell anyone hoping to avoid the whole calling problem. I never wore suits. I sat in the back. I tried to aovid contact. The whole drill. So they made me cub master, and that just sort of snowballed. Not to be too cute about it, but the Lord will find you if he wants to.
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LOL. Sense of humor, indeed.
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