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Brian · 11-20-2007, 12:47 PM

An online rebuttal to Beck's talk:

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7512832

From the article:

The rebuttal includes these declarations:
* Fathers as well as mothers, men as well as women, are called to nurture.
* Motherhood and sisterhood cannot be reduced to the performance of narrowly prescribed tasks, but emerge from who we know ourselves to be.
* Cleanliness depends on access to resources and has more to do with priorities than purity of heart.
* Unfortunately, women and girls still perform the bulk of the world's low-paid and unpaid labor, including housework - often at the expense of their own education, leadership, creativity, health, and well-being. We reject teachings that encourage women to shoulder ultimate responsibility for every aspect of child-rearing and family life, and to take on shame and guilt when things do not go according to plan.
* We reverence the responsibility to choose how, when, and whether we become parents.

MikeWaters · 11-20-2007, 12:55 PM

what are the potential consequences of signing this document?

http://www.whatwomenknow.org/

Could one be brought up for church court hearings?

Tex · 11-20-2007, 12:58 PM

Whiners.

MikeWaters · 11-20-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Whiners.

Tex, you're in charge. How does the church respond, if at all?

Tex · 11-20-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Tex, you're in charge. How does the church respond, if at all?

We are putting Boyd in charge of what happens to them.

Indy Coug · 11-20-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Tex, you're in charge. How does the church respond, if at all?

The church ignores it for the pile of shit that it is.

MikeWaters · 11-20-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

The church ignores it for the pile of shit that it is.

You know they are on the right track when they piss off Indy and Tex.

Bravo to those women for speaking their mind. I'd hate to be in a church where people weren't allowed to say they disagreed with a fundie non-doctrinal talk.

Tex · 11-20-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

The church ignores it for the pile of shit that it is.

This is why men get rebuked in priesthood meeting, but the women get fawned over in the general women's meetings.

Women can't take it, especially from other women.

Indy Coug · 11-20-2007, 01:10 PM

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"A signed rebuke to a General Conference talk shows a basic lack of understanding of how the Church does [and should] function," Smith wrote. "As far as the content of their statement, most of the petition is fine [if a little self-assuredly PC and guilty of missing the mark] but largely irrelevant to President Beck's talk."

Solon · 11-20-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

The church ignores it for the pile of shit that it is.

What, specifically, in their statement is so bad that you call it shit?

11-20-2007, 12:47 PM	#1
Brian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oak Ridge, TN Posts: 1,308	Beck An online rebuttal to Beck's talk: http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7512832 From the article: The rebuttal includes these declarations: * Fathers as well as mothers, men as well as women, are called to nurture. * Motherhood and sisterhood cannot be reduced to the performance of narrowly prescribed tasks, but emerge from who we know ourselves to be. * Cleanliness depends on access to resources and has more to do with priorities than purity of heart. * Unfortunately, women and girls still perform the bulk of the world's low-paid and unpaid labor, including housework - often at the expense of their own education, leadership, creativity, health, and well-being. We reject teachings that encourage women to shoulder ultimate responsibility for every aspect of child-rearing and family life, and to take on shame and guilt when things do not go according to plan. * We reverence the responsibility to choose how, when, and whether we become parents. __________________ e^(i * pi) + 1 = 0 5 great numbers in one little equation.

11-20-2007, 12:58 PM	#3
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	Whiners. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

11-20-2007, 12:55 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	what are the potential consequences of signing this document? http://www.whatwomenknow.org/ Could one be brought up for church court hearings?