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Jeff Lebowski · 12-22-2007, 05:16 PM

Any of you see this yet?

http://www.boston.com/news/daily/24/delbert_stapley.pdf

It's a letter from Apostle Stapley to George Romney in 1964. The note on the letter indicates that Romney answered with a hand-written letter. It sure would be interesting to read his response.

The letter is horrendous. And the most shocking part is the threat to Romney implying that God strikes down those that help the "negroes" with a quick, seemingly accidental death, including his friend who had the audacity to ask DOM if the priesthood could be extended to the blacks. If this represents the sentiment among the apostles in 1964, it is no small wonder that it took another 14 years for the change to be made.

Sleeping in EQ · 12-22-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Any of you see this yet?

http://www.boston.com/news/daily/24/delbert_stapley.pdf

It's a letter from Apostle Stapley to George Romney in 1964. The note on the letter indicates that Romney answered with a hand-written letter. It sure would be interesting to read his response.

The letter is horrendous. And the most shocking part is the threat to Romney implying that God strikes down those that help the "negroes" with a quick, seemingly accidental death, including his friend who had the audacity to ask DOM if the priesthood could be extended to the blacks. If this represents the sentiment among the apostles in 1964, it is no small wonder that it took another 14 years for the change to be made.

I've seen it. It made the rounds right after Romney announced his candidacy. People who think that Church leaders don't ever hold erroneous opinions might be shaken up by that letter.

SteelBlue · 12-22-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Any of you see this yet?

http://www.boston.com/news/daily/24/delbert_stapley.pdf

It's a letter from Apostle Stapley to George Romney in 1964. The note on the letter indicates that Romney answered with a hand-written letter. It sure would be interesting to read his response.

The letter is horrendous. And the most shocking part is the threat to Romney implying that God strikes down those that help the "negroes" with a quick, seemingly accidental death, including his friend who had the audacity to ask DOM if the priesthood could be extended to the blacks. If this represents the sentiment among the apostles in 1964, it is no small wonder that it took another 14 years for the change to be made.

Folks, can it be any more obvious why it took until 1978? By the way I love that line at the end "now, don't think I am against the negro for I have several in my employ..."

non sequitur · 12-22-2007, 06:14 PM

That adds a little context to the heat Romney is taking for so enthusiastically embracing the religion of his fathers.

Honestly, how can people read stuff like that and still insist that apostles and prophets speak for God? It baffles me.

BYU71 · 12-22-2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Any of you see this yet?

http://www.boston.com/news/daily/24/delbert_stapley.pdf

It's a letter from Apostle Stapley to George Romney in 1964. The note on the letter indicates that Romney answered with a hand-written letter. It sure would be interesting to read his response.

The letter is horrendous. And the most shocking part is the threat to Romney implying that God strikes down those that help the "negroes" with a quick, seemingly accidental death, including his friend who had the audacity to ask DOM if the priesthood could be extended to the blacks. If this represents the sentiment among the apostles in 1964, it is no small wonder that it took another 14 years for the change to be made.

Now you tell me. What is more embarassing to the church. A letter like this or a "scandal" at BYU on the football team.

Archaea · 12-23-2007, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur

That adds a little context to the heat Romney is taking for so enthusiastically embracing the religion of his fathers.

Honestly, how can people read stuff like that and still insist that apostles and prophets speak for God? It baffles me.

Because some of us aren't naive enough to believe God doesn't allow even his leaders to make mistakes and to hold erroneous beliefs. That really is as simpleton as believing in the inerrancy of the Bible.

MikeWaters · 12-23-2007, 05:23 AM

Well, if I flippantly said that Romney was like unto someone who says they treat their slaves well, what is this guy like? Yikes.

This is unabashed racism, rationalized and justified by the sins of those that preceeded him.

It does tend to go agains tthe theory that the apostles were deserately hoping for a revelation that would bring blacks into full fellowship. I don't think this was on his wishlist at all.

Archaea · 12-23-2007, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Well, if I flippantly said that Romney was like unto someone who says they treat their slaves well, what is this guy like? Yikes.

This is unabashed racism, rationalized and justified by the sins of those that preceeded him.

It does tend to go agains tthe theory that the apostles were deserately hoping for a revelation that would bring blacks into full fellowship. I don't think this was on his wishlist at all.

With Alvin Dyer and Stapely, it's not wonder it took decades to get it right.

SteelBlue · 12-24-2007, 04:28 AM

I really thought this was going to be a 10 page thread.

Jeff Lebowski · 12-24-2007, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelBlue

I really thought this was going to be a 10 page thread.

Yeah, no kidding. I sense some fatigue on the topic.

12-22-2007, 05:16 PM	#1
Jeff Lebowski Charon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the heart of darkness (Provo) Posts: 9,564	Delbert L. Stapley Letter Any of you see this yet? http://www.boston.com/news/daily/24/delbert_stapley.pdf It's a letter from Apostle Stapley to George Romney in 1964. The note on the letter indicates that Romney answered with a hand-written letter. It sure would be interesting to read his response. The letter is horrendous. And the most shocking part is the threat to Romney implying that God strikes down those that help the "negroes" with a quick, seemingly accidental death, including his friend who had the audacity to ask DOM if the priesthood could be extended to the blacks. If this represents the sentiment among the apostles in 1964, it is no small wonder that it took another 14 years for the change to be made. __________________ "... the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Martin Luther King, Jr.

12-22-2007, 06:14 PM	#4
non sequitur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,964	That adds a little context to the heat Romney is taking for so enthusiastically embracing the religion of his fathers. Honestly, how can people read stuff like that and still insist that apostles and prophets speak for God? It baffles me. __________________ ...You've been under attack for days, there's a soldier down, he's wounded, gangrene's setting in, 'Who's used all the penicillin?' 'Oh, Mark Paxson sir, he's got knob rot off of some tart.'" - Gareth Keenan

12-23-2007, 05:23 AM	#7
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Well, if I flippantly said that Romney was like unto someone who says they treat their slaves well, what is this guy like? Yikes. This is unabashed racism, rationalized and justified by the sins of those that preceeded him. It does tend to go agains tthe theory that the apostles were deserately hoping for a revelation that would bring blacks into full fellowship. I don't think this was on his wishlist at all.

12-24-2007, 04:28 AM	#9
SteelBlue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 5,821	I really thought this was going to be a 10 page thread.