03-20-2007, 05:06 PM | #31 | |
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Of course, I wasn't the typical college kid. I was more focused on baseball than dating and it wasn't until I finally accepted that I wasn't good enough to advance in baseball that I started to date a bit and by then, I had developed a close relationship with a girl from SLC who lived in Poughkeepsie as a nanny. I think an LDS kid can do fine at a school with little or no LDS atmosphere. It depends on the kid and how committed he/she is to the Church and it's teachings. I know a few kids who went to BYU and are now some of the most anti-religion of any kind people around. Odds are better at BYU that your kids will hang out with active members of the Church, but it's no guarantee that they'll always make good decisions.
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03-20-2007, 05:10 PM | #33 | |
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Furthermore, word around the campfire is that a temple recommend isn't all you need. The bishop has to submit a ranking of your church activity in your ward (top 10%, top 25%, etc. of the ward) in order to maintain an ecclesiastical endorsement. I don't have documentation, but I've heard this from plenty of people who have taught at BYU and are in school here in the real Happy Valley. But, after all is said and done, it's a private school and they can do whatever they want.
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03-20-2007, 05:14 PM | #34 |
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I would add that BYU is sometimes the wrong choice if you want your kid to be stay in the church. It depends on the kid, and it's hard to know when the school decision is made.
Zulu, for example, started at BYU, and for various reasons (not church related), ended at Texas A&M. And doesn't regret it one bit. |
03-20-2007, 05:21 PM | #35 | |
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My poor defense isn't something I agree with. But as was noted a significant number of faculty do their undergrad work there. Most are LDS and are keenly aware of the atmosphere and mullah culture there already, so why would any of this be surprising to anyone? I am not saying that's how it's supposed to be and that this policy is agreeable, but to paint with a wide brush, it is what it is. That's BYU. That doesn't make it right, but that's an underlying assumption one must consider before applying to study at or work for BYU. I learned from my own experience that fighting the HC is like kicking against the pricks. And there are a ton of pricks in the HC department.
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This is very true. I've known people who thrived, survived, and drowned. And graduate school is a whole different animal at the Y (at least it was for me).
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My question is what is the good side? They can claim that their faculty is righteous?
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I call B.S. on this one.
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Is there a possibility for sacrificing academic quality to get the "right" person in there?
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It's very difficult to say that someone thrived or drowned at BYU becasue of BYU. There is no way to know whether the person would have done better or not for having gone there. I went there my Freshman year and didn't really like it. I still went on a mission, however, and I think that being at BYU helped me reach that decision. Even so, after my mission I did not go back to BYU. BYU certainly isn't the best choice for everyone, but it is a good and reasonable choice for many and probably most.
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