An indictment of single LDS men

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by K-dog

Another solution...make the bitches pay for the date. I blew a lot of money in college on other men's wives.

I wasn't very forward about dating. And I REALLY wasn't forward about dating chicks I wasn't interested in.

So I had several women that were pretty forward with me. Asked me to hang out, etc. I was too nice to say "no". But after that one time, they generally never asked again.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Requiem

Since we are into stereotyping:

My guess: LDS guys are deathly afraid of rejection - refuse to take risks.

My guess: LDS guys do not know how to date - not taught at the MTC.

Mu guess: Arch is right - no sex, no gain, no reason for pain.

My guess: LDS guys are preconditioned to believe that there will be bells, whistles and the bright light of personal revelation when they meet their "chosen one". Therefore, why bother with dating?

My guess: Too many LDS single women come across as desperate and pious.

My guess: LDS guys are intimidated by smart, aggressive women. They want to be just like Ward Cleaver - in charge and unchallenged.

The idea of my daughter finding herself single at age 23 is just fine with me, btw.

Getting desperate for a mate as an unmarried senior at BYU sometimes leads to disasters. Just ask Farrah.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by Requiem

Since we are into stereotyping:

My guess: LDS guys are deathly afraid of rejection - refuse to take risks.

My guess: LDS guys do not know how to date - not taught at the MTC.

Mu guess: Arch is right - no sex, no gain, no reason for pain.

My guess: LDS guys are preconditioned to believe that there will be bells, whistles and the bright light of personal revelation when they meet their "chosen one". Therefore, why bother with dating?

My guess: Too many LDS single women come across as desperate and pious.

My guess: LDS guys are intimidated by smart, aggressive women. They want to be just like Ward Cleaver - in charge and unchallenged.

The final guess is the type of thing that causes the problem. Our women convince themselves that if a guy doesn't a like a girl to be a frigid, ice princess, bitch he is "intimidated by smart, aggressive women."

[BYU71]

What is shocking to me is that the figure for married grads is 60% and leaders are talking about a big problem. What is the problem??

You want to see the church divorce rate go up. Find a way to force that other 40% to get married before they get out of college.

I wonder if anyone consults psychologists or sociologists. Wait, I forgot we don't need to do that because everything concerning BYU comes from God.

[MikeWaters]

One word for you: MASP.

Mormon American Sexless Princess.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by K-dog

The final guess is the type of thing that causes the problem. Our women convince themselves that if a guy doesn't a like a girl to be a frigid, ice princess, bitch he is "intimidated by smart, aggressive women."

Nerds are especially intimidated and BYU continues to narrow those who can come in favor of nerds. You can't have it both ways.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by BYU71

What is shocking to me is that the figure for married grads is 60% and leaders are talking about a big problem. What is the problem??

You want to see the church divorce rate go up. Find a way to force that other 40% to get married before they get out of college.

I wonder if anyone consults psychologists or sociologists. Wait, I forgot we don't need to do that because everything concerning BYU comes from God.

What they don't like is crying princesses asking them why they aren't getting asked out. There might not be a problem but when the little dolls cry the priesthood gets a lecture.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

One word for you: MASP.

Mormon American Sexless Princess.

LOL. Then she gets married and becomes MASQWHSTNFP.

Mormon American Sexless Queen with Husband Searching The Net For Porn.

[pelagius]

I don't doubt a shift in the mean or median dating experience but nobody has presented systematic evidence of a significant shift. Elder Oaks speech is probably the best evidence of a shift but it doesn't really get at magnitudes.

In my personal experience at BYU in the 90s I observed that the dating distribution was very concentrated. Pretty yet approachable girls where asked out very frequently. On the other hand, girls that were beautiful but less approachable often only had a few dates a semester. Steelblue's example could easily fit within pattern. I don't doubt a shift but I would like to see a whole lot better evidence before we indict BYU males or females in general.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by BYU71

Nerds are especially intimidated and BYU continues to narrow those who can come in favor of nerds. You can't have it both ways.

Also true. Everyone knows that smart girls who are cute are "accomplished" and smart guys who don't play sports are nerds. Welcome to the new Y.