Kobe is amazing

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by surfah33

Rocky he's a narcissistic adulterer. You seem to forget that.

Your comments always intrigue me. You can use whatever standard of judgement you want to determine who you champion. But I don't understand the moral grounds with which you determine the worth of an athlete's accomplishments in sport. I am not saying one should cheer for Kobe. But like Il Pad recognize his talent as extraordinary and special. Mind you there are many athletes who I don't like but I am in awe of their achievments and athletic prowess. By your same standard of judgement Michael Jordan is a narcissistic adulterer. Ray Lewis is a narcissistic murderer. Barry Bonds is a narcissistic drug user. Or does your moral judgement extend only to Kobe because you just don't like him? I am not trolling here but genuinely interested in your standard of jugement here and how it diminishes what an athlete has accomplished.

Thank you for proving my point.

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Thank you for proving my point.

Wow that was unexpected.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by surfah33

Wow that was unexpected.

I call irrational trolling defenses of rapists more unexpected, but I probably shouldn't.

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

I call irrational trolling defenses of rapists more unexpected, but I probably shouldn't.

Adulterers Rocky. Geez, how many times do I have to remind you? Unless you'd like to clarify and say accused rapists.

Anyway, Kobe scored a human 43 tonight so I am done trolling until his next outburst.

[Detroitdad]

What does Kobe's off the court exploits have to do with his on the court game? I have never understood why someone's real personality should be a reason to like or dislike them as a player. Kobe is a scoring machine. Scorers take shots, scorers turn the ball over and sometimes they take terrible shots. But as a scorer Kobe is absolutely breathtaking and amazing to watch.

I wonder if Kevin Durrant will be hated for his style of play in the NBA. I suppose he will. I am just waiting for the hatred of Lebron to ramp up.

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by Detroitdad

What does Kobe's off the court exploits have to do with his on the court game? I have never understood why someone's real personality should be a reason to like or dislike them as a player. Kobe is a scoring machine. Scorers take shots, scorers turn the ball over and sometimes they take terrible shots. But as a scorer Kobe is absolutely breathtaking and amazing to watch.

I wonder if Kevin Durrant will be hated for his style of play in the NBA. I suppose he will. I am just waiting for the hatred of Lebron to ramp up.

Durant's size and length I think will make him immune to some of that criticism and instead people like Doug Collins will be saying, "It's amazing that he is so athletic at his size. When I was coaching Michael Jordan..."

Lebron shares the ball with his crappy teammates making him the consumate team player and a better team player. Though he only averages half an assist more per game than Kobe. Perception is everything. The other thing is Lebron isn't as dominating as Kobe. Lebron also plays in a small market in the midwest in the shitty eastern conference. And he hasn't won anything. His game is also different from Jordan's, so he's no threat to the Airness in that regard. Kind of tough to loathe someone for any of those things. I am sure if he ever leaves the Cavs, which is in his destiny to do, and joins someone like the Knicks or Lakers and then leads them to a title he will start being hated. When he starts winning scoring titles and MVP's and challenging records the contempt will grow. Besides he's one of the Bron's.

[Detroitdad]

Originally Posted by surfah33

Durant's size and length I think will make him immune to some of that criticism and instead people like Doug Collins will be saying, "It's amazing that he is so athletic at his size. When I was coaching Michael Jordan..."

Lebron shares the ball with his crappy teammates making him the consumate team player and a better team player. Though he only averages half an assist more per game than Kobe. Perception is everything. The other thing is Lebron isn't as dominating as Kobe. Lebron also plays in a small market in the midwest in the shitty eastern conference. And he hasn't won anything. His game is also different from Jordan's, so he's no threat to the Airness in that regard. Kind of tough to loathe someone for any of those things. I am sure if he ever leaves the Cavs, which is in his destiny to do, and joins someone like the Knicks or Lakers and then leads them to a title he will start being hated. When he starts winning scoring titles and MVP's and challenging records the contempt will grow. Besides he's one of the Bron's.

Melo is already hated though. Maybe because of the fight, etc. I think it is very interesting to chart who the general public decides to hate and declare as selfish. I remember not too many years ago that it was Iverson, but that seems to have cooled down considerably. Maybe Kobe just has to hang around long enough for the haters to find someone else to hate more.

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by Detroitdad

Melo is already hated though. Maybe because of the fight, etc. I think it is very interesting to chart who the general public decides to hate and declare as selfish. I remember not too many years ago that it was Iverson, but that seems to have cooled down considerably. Maybe Kobe just has to hang around long enough for the haters to find someone else to hate more.

I think Melo's off court antics have created some of his contempt. I think he's viewed as a thug considering he's from Baltimore, is engaged to La La and has relationships with known felons and drug dealers. Plus he's won. He led a team to the national title as a freshman and then jumped ship for the pay day.

It is interesting that Iverson's haters have cooled somewhat. Maybe because he's in the second half of his career and the way Philadelphia fell off the map from being contenders has softened people's attitudes towards him.

[TheSizzle36]

K50BE BRYANT is an amazing talent and one helluva basketball player. His 50 point game string has been an awesome feat.

I still hate the bastard though...

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Detroitdad

What does Kobe's off the court exploits have to do with his on the court game? I have never understood why someone's real personality should be a reason to like or dislike them as a player. Kobe is a scoring machine. Scorers take shots, scorers turn the ball over and sometimes they take terrible shots. But as a scorer Kobe is absolutely breathtaking and amazing to watch.

I wonder if Kevin Durrant will be hated for his style of play in the NBA. I suppose he will. I am just waiting for the hatred of Lebron to ramp up.

Perception is everything. Kobe has the perception of being a smug, pompous asshole. Are there any assholes that are liked by anyone other than another asshole?