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Old 01-04-2008, 08:57 PM   #61
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I'm glad you picked up on that.

The leaders are pushing for assimilation and many rank-and-file are pushing back.

Again, go read the goddamn book before you condemn it.
I don't have to read the book. I reject the stated premise

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Since there's no longer a really obvious way to distinguish "the one true faith" from the others, they make up extra rules to show their piety, like caffeine or white-shirts or facial hair.
There are plenty of obvious things which distinguish us from other faiths; which is why the evangelical nation by and large refuses to accept us as a Christian faith. If we were that homogenized, we would be a part of the Christian Collective.

I'm not really interested in the Maussian psychoanalysis of the white shirt phenomenon.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:04 PM   #62
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I don't have to read the book. I reject the stated premise



There are plenty of obvious things which distinguish us from other faiths; which is why the evangelical nation by and large refuses to accept us as a Christian faith. If we were that homogenized, we would be a part of the Christian Collective.

I'm not really interested in the Maussian psychoanalysis of the white shirt phenomenon.
Do you really think there is plenty. I think it gets down to 1 thing. We claim to be the only church with Gods authority. That must really piss them off. All the other stuff is just things they pull out to show we aren't Gods only church.

How do you feel when they tell you you are going to hell if you believe in works and say it over and over again. It pisses me off. I don't like someone telling me I can't think for myself and it is God that is telling them to let me know I can't.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:07 PM   #63
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Do you really think there is plenty. I think it gets down to 1 thing. We claim to be the only church with Gods authority. That must really piss them off. All the other stuff is just things they pull out to show we aren't Gods only church.

How do you feel when they tell you you are going to hell if you believe in works and say it over and over again. It pisses me off. I don't like someone telling me I can't think for myself and it is God that is telling them to let me know I can't.
Actually, it goes a little deeper than that. Indy's right, there's a lot out there that distinguishes us from them.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:15 PM   #64
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Actually, it goes a little deeper than that. Indy's right, there's a lot out there that distinguishes us from them.
Could be, I am just not that familiar with evangelicals to tell you the truth.

Had some in my house once and after one half hour of they were right I was wrong, I had to throw them out.

On my mission we mainly taught Catholics.
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Do you really think there is plenty. I think it gets down to 1 thing. We claim to be the only church with Gods authority. That must really piss them off. All the other stuff is just things they pull out to show we aren't Gods only church.

How do you feel when they tell you you are going to hell if you believe in works and say it over and over again. It pisses me off. I don't like someone telling me I can't think for myself and it is God that is telling them to let me know I can't.
Let's just throw out some examples:

Temple worship
Rejection of the doctrine of the Trinity
Man's relationship to God and Eternal Progression/Exaltation
Degrees of Glory
Premortality
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Let's just throw out some examples:

Temple worship
Rejection of the doctrine of the Trinity
Man's relationship to God and Eternal Progression/Exaltation
Degrees of Glory
Premortality
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Let's just throw out some examples:

Temple worship
Rejection of the doctrine of the Trinity
Man's relationship to God and Eternal Progression/Exaltation
Degrees of Glory
Premortality
Why don't you think they have the dislike level for the Catholics they do for us. Surely the Catholics have as many differences. Heck, aren't evangelicals protestant. They protested and broke away from the Catholic church. Why not the hatred for them.
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Why don't you think they have the dislike level for the Catholics they do for us. Surely the Catholics have as many differences. Heck, aren't evangelicals protestant. They protested and broke away from the Catholic church. Why not the hatred for them.
Satan? Either that or the common bond of the trinitarian doctrine.

JFK wasn't exactly embraced by the evangelicals either.
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Why don't you think they have the dislike level for the Catholics they do for us. Surely the Catholics have as many differences. Heck, aren't evangelicals protestant. They protested and broke away from the Catholic church. Why not the hatred for them.
Catholics are not very aggressive in prosylitizing. We are in your face and genuinely threaten to take their members.
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Catholics are not very aggressive in prosylitizing. We are in your face and genuinely threaten to take their members.
Imagine if Bronco was released as head coach at BYU and called to Elder Ballard's position?

We'd rule the world! (And Utes would have a better chance too, which a good thing for this ALUF.)

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