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Nobody Special · 12-15-2005, 02:07 AM

Well, Padrino, you and I are pretty much one in the same. It took my mother-in-law 16 years to figure out that I didn't have a problem with her and her family. But, I'd just as soon sit off and be by myself, watch and listen than be in the middle of everything.

Finally my wife told her that I'm that way with my own family and it finally clicked in her brain. Now she just leaves me alone.

I feel exactly the same about the home teachers, I'd have to be in some pretty bad shape to ask them for help about anything. Maybe, I'm just too proud and need to be humbled but I'm of the belief that, that's what family is for.

And as for the name, well I'm glad you get it. Most think I just don't have any self esteem. I once entered a softball team in a tournement under that name and the score keeper about fell out of the stands laughing when he annouced the name.

So, I tend to enjoy it when my warped humor is understood.

And the worst part of being self employed, is finding help. I can't get anybody that wants to work. So, I employ a bunch of Mexicans. They work well, I just wish that I could find the ones that were willing to work cheap. That has to be the biggest myth about them that I can think of.

SteelBlue · 12-15-2005, 04:26 AM

The most difficult aspect of home teaching imho is teaching active families. It just feels so ridiculous going over and teaching the same message that they are teaching that month. You can skip the message, as you know they already know it. But then you're just chatting with them which you could do anytime. And quite frankly, I've always figured that if they wanted me to just chat with them, they'd have invited me over. I've been in my current ward for 8 years and have had a home teacher come and teach me 2 times. I'm definitely not complaining. My home teacher is a friend of mine. We do things together occasionally and he "checks in" on me that way.

In the end, I just have to realize that the program is a good one. It's a great way to have each others' backs. But I'd take a long list of inactives over a short list of active families all day.

Rickomatic · 12-16-2005, 03:06 PM

It is Christmas time, so it is time for my HT to visit. That is the way I like it. I have never been fond of the whole, home teaching is the only way the Bishop can know about the families. If there is a problem, the word will get back to the Bishop post haste. I go, but not religously. I see my families once a qauter, they are all active and if they have a computer problem and am their first call. I theink it is important for everyone in the ward to be aware of what people can do to help out. I was licensed as an electrician and now work with computers. My nieghbor is a general contractor, my HT is a plumber. We all help each other with what we do best.

The_Tick · 12-17-2005, 12:01 AM

Sometimes I stop by twice a month.

And all my families have been invited over for a bowl game BBQ this week.

You guys just need the right person...

non sequitur · 12-17-2005, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Tick

You guys just need the right person...

I've got the right person. He never comes.

bluegoose · 12-17-2005, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nobody Special

And the worst part of being self employed, is finding help. I can't get anybody that wants to work. So, I employ a bunch of Mexicans. They work well, I just wish that I could find the ones that were willing to work cheap. That has to be the biggest myth about them that I can think of.

I've been very fortunate to find phenomenal help in my office. I've posted a yellow pages ad once and got 65 resumes within about 3 days. Other than that, It's been word of mouth, which has been just as good for me. I'm sure it just depends on the industry.

As far as Utah help goes, I have a good friend from here in Northern Cal who packed up his family and his business to move to Utah Valley because the quality of the available employees there was incredible compared to here. He was hiring recent BYU grads willing to work for pennies just for the opportunity to stay and work near mom and pop in American Fork.

Il Padrino, As far as self-employment, sure some of it sucks, but the benefits far outweigh the burdens imo. If you've ever punched a timecard for the man and then gone out on your own, try going back to the "other side". I'm sure you'll appreciate what you had as your own boss.

I digress. How does this relate to religion again???

il Padrino Ute · 12-17-2005, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur

I've got the right person. He never comes.

Amen, bro.

Let me guess - do you also never turn on the front light to discourage all the neighbors to stay away as well?

I'm the curmudgeon on my street and I love it.

il Padrino Ute · 12-17-2005, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bluegoose

Il Padrino, As far as self-employment, sure some of it sucks, but the benefits far outweigh the burdens imo. If you've ever punched a timecard for the man and then gone out on your own, try going back to the "other side". I'm sure you'll appreciate what you had as your own boss.

I hear you, my friend. I do enjoy all the good things about being self-employed. The only real setback is that when I don't work, I don't get paid.

Hazzard · 12-17-2005, 04:55 AM

I am in the camp of those who don't really enjoy being home taught, but I'm also in the (apparently smaller) camp of those who love home teaching.

I think home teaching is one of the very best programs of the Church because, for many members of the Church (MOST of the members where I grew up), the only contact they have with the Church is their home teachers.

In areas where the majority of members are active, however, I agree that home teaching is less effective.

I should point out as well that I am somewhat liberal in what I consider a valid home teaching visit. I think everything should be adjusted to the circumstances; for example, when I can tell someone doesn't want me around, I'll share a quick scripture, ask about his/her needs, say a prayer, and get out of dodge. In fact, I might even consider it a visiti if I do much less than that. But when I can tell someone really enjoys having me over, I'll take more time to do a "full" visit.

12-15-2005, 02:07 AM	#11
Nobody Special Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ogden Posts: 53	Well, Padrino, you and I are pretty much one in the same. It took my mother-in-law 16 years to figure out that I didn't have a problem with her and her family. But, I'd just as soon sit off and be by myself, watch and listen than be in the middle of everything. Finally my wife told her that I'm that way with my own family and it finally clicked in her brain. Now she just leaves me alone. I feel exactly the same about the home teachers, I'd have to be in some pretty bad shape to ask them for help about anything. Maybe, I'm just too proud and need to be humbled but I'm of the belief that, that's what family is for. And as for the name, well I'm glad you get it. Most think I just don't have any self esteem. I once entered a softball team in a tournement under that name and the score keeper about fell out of the stands laughing when he annouced the name. So, I tend to enjoy it when my warped humor is understood. And the worst part of being self employed, is finding help. I can't get anybody that wants to work. So, I employ a bunch of Mexicans. They work well, I just wish that I could find the ones that were willing to work cheap. That has to be the biggest myth about them that I can think of. __________________ Just a thought from Nobody Special. Go Cougars!

12-17-2005, 12:01 AM	#14
The_Tick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 626	You all would hate me then.... Sometimes I stop by twice a month. And all my families have been invited over for a bowl game BBQ this week. You guys just need the right person... __________________ Spooooooon

12-15-2005, 04:26 AM	#12
SteelBlue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 5,821	The most difficult aspect of home teaching imho is teaching active families. It just feels so ridiculous going over and teaching the same message that they are teaching that month. You can skip the message, as you know they already know it. But then you're just chatting with them which you could do anytime. And quite frankly, I've always figured that if they wanted me to just chat with them, they'd have invited me over. I've been in my current ward for 8 years and have had a home teacher come and teach me 2 times. I'm definitely not complaining. My home teacher is a friend of mine. We do things together occasionally and he "checks in" on me that way. In the end, I just have to realize that the program is a good one. It's a great way to have each others' backs. But I'd take a long list of inactives over a short list of active families all day.

12-16-2005, 03:06 PM	#13
Rickomatic Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Jordan UT Posts: 319	It is Christmas time, so it is time for my HT to visit. That is the way I like it. I have never been fond of the whole, home teaching is the only way the Bishop can know about the families. If there is a problem, the word will get back to the Bishop post haste. I go, but not religously. I see my families once a qauter, they are all active and if they have a computer problem and am their first call. I theink it is important for everyone in the ward to be aware of what people can do to help out. I was licensed as an electrician and now work with computers. My nieghbor is a general contractor, my HT is a plumber. We all help each other with what we do best.

12-17-2005, 04:55 AM	#19
Hazzard Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 158	I am in the camp of those who don't really enjoy being home taught, but I'm also in the (apparently smaller) camp of those who love home teaching. I think home teaching is one of the very best programs of the Church because, for many members of the Church (MOST of the members where I grew up), the only contact they have with the Church is their home teachers. In areas where the majority of members are active, however, I agree that home teaching is less effective. I should point out as well that I am somewhat liberal in what I consider a valid home teaching visit. I think everything should be adjusted to the circumstances; for example, when I can tell someone doesn't want me around, I'll share a quick scripture, ask about his/her needs, say a prayer, and get out of dodge. In fact, I might even consider it a visiti if I do much less than that. But when I can tell someone really enjoys having me over, I'll take more time to do a "full" visit.