BCS is better than the old regime, that's for sure

[SeattleUte]

In 2004 the Utes would never have played in a major bowl under the old system. That's for sure. The old system was more exclusionary than the current one, and asked for a debacle like BYU playing 6-5 Michigan for the nc in the Holiday Bowl (the old upstart Holiday Bowl).

I'm actually not that much against the BCS until something more practical is executed. It's not the worst of all worlds.

[TripletDaddy]

BYu didnt play Michigan for the national championship. Michigan wasn't in contention for the national championship. BYu was voted champ by the AP because it won its final game.

No different from previous national champions.......how often, if ever did the AP 1 and 2 play each other in bowl games for the national championship?

If you were the #1 team going into your bowl game and you won, you were going to win the national championship. What exactly was the debacle?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

BYu didnt play Michigan for the national championship. Michigan wasn't in contention for the national championship. BYu was voted champ by the AP because it won its final game.

No different from previous national champions.......how often, if ever did the AP 1 and 2 play each other in bowl games for the national championship?

If you were the #1 team going into your bowl game and you won, you were going to win the national championship. What exactly was the debacle?

I was fine with that.

[ute4ever]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

In 2004 the Utes would never have played in a major bowl under the old system. That's for sure. The old system was more exclusionary than the current one, and asked for a debacle like BYU playing 6-5 Michigan for the nc in the Holiday Bowl (the old upstart Holiday Bowl).

I'm actually not that much against the BCS until something more practical is executed. It's not the worst of all worlds.

I completely agree. Just because true playoff formats work in every other sport on every level from amateur to professional, doesn't mean it would work in college football. There are the elitist programs who are so much better and it would be a waste of time to make them prove it.

In fact I'm kind of pissed that the MLB allowed Tampa to have their playoff run. The regular season is cute and all, but regardless of what happens, every postseason should be Boston vs. New York, and Atlanta vs. Los Angeles. Every time. They get the ratings, they have the fans, they have the tradition, and the wannabe weasels out there should just learn their place and shut up.

Tampa. What a joke. Just like Colorado last year. Just like Florida before them both. Freaks.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

I completely agree. Just because true playoff formats work in every other sport on every level from amateur to professional, doesn't mean it would work in college football. There are the elitist programs who are so much better and it would be a waste of time to make them prove it.

In fact I'm kind of pissed that the MLB allowed Tampa to have their playoff run. The regular season is cute and all, but regardless of what happens, every postseason should be Boston vs. New York, and Atlanta vs. Los Angeles. Every time. They get the ratings, they have the fans, they have the tradition, and the wannabe weasels out there should just learn their place and shut up.

Tampa. What a joke. Just like Colorado last year. Just like Florida before them both. Freaks.

And yet ultimately, Tampa choked and lost.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

And yet ultimately, Tampa choked and lost.

To Philadelphia which is another team that didn't deserve to be there because of history.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

BYu didnt play Michigan for the national championship. Michigan wasn't in contention for the national championship. BYu was voted champ by the AP because it won its final game.

No different from previous national champions.......how often, if ever did the AP 1 and 2 play each other in bowl games for the national championship?

If you were the #1 team going into your bowl game and you won, you were going to win the national championship. What exactly was the debacle?

With how the bowls used to be, no team was eliminated at a chance for that fake championship before the season even started.

I loathe the BCS because it denies almost half the participants from ever getting a shot based only on conference affiliation.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

BYu didnt play Michigan for the national championship. Michigan wasn't in contention for the national championship. BYu was voted champ by the AP because it won its final game.

No different from previous national champions.......how often, if ever did the AP 1 and 2 play each other in bowl games for the national championship?

If you were the #1 team going into your bowl game and you won, you were going to win the national championship. What exactly was the debacle?

You've stated one of the better reasons for the BCS, different from the one I raised. The BCS has flexiblility to pair up teams such as the two best teams as determined by computers to play one another in the final game, a sort of faux national championship game. Would the BCS computer have ranked byu over #5 in 1984? I doubt it. Even had it been ranked no. 1, it would have had to prove itself worthy of the designation by beating a very good team that had survived the valley of the shadow of death.

BYU sucks.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

With how the bowls used to be, no team was eliminated at a chance for that fake championship before the season even started.

I loathe the BCS because it denies almost half the participants from ever getting a shot based only on conference affiliation.

EPU, way too much of your own delicious, italian Kool-Aid, brother.

It was still extremely rare for any of the then "non-BCS" schools to move up in the polls to #1 or #2....which is where they needed to be to win a NC.

And the pre-season polls were the same biased junk....all the usual schools picked to win it all before the season began.

The old bowl system was not a utopia wherein all teams had a fair shot.

The only bowls that mattered were the ones that hosted the #1 and #2 teams (generally) because one of those 2 bowls was going to produce the winner, period.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

BYU sucks.

Isn't that against the honor code?