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Old 03-12-2008, 05:38 PM   #21
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Where did your quote come from in the link? According to the Trib, it was believed to be Cala.

http://www.sltrib.com/byucougars/ci_8535554
The SL Trib "believed" it to be Cala, but clearly from Peterson and his attorney's response, it was somebody else.
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Old 03-12-2008, 06:52 PM   #22
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Honestly I could care less.

The only 2 sports I care about are football and basketball.

I don't envy the Yewt "fan" relegated to cheering for sports that no one gives a shit about.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:18 PM   #23
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Imagine that. Indy not thinking it's a big deal.

Remember how you railed against majerus about cookiegate and extra practice hours?

Majerus cheated. So did the BYU volleyball coach.

Why is that hard for you to accept?
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:26 PM   #24
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Imagine that. Indy not thinking it's a big deal.

Remember how you railed against majerus about cookiegate and extra practice hours?

Majerus cheated. So did the BYU volleyball coach.

Why is that hard for you to accept?
The issue is whether or not a person received benefits in an effort to get them to play at BYU. Not only did they not play at BYU, but they didn't get assistance until they understood it would mean they couldn't play at BYU.

Not a difficult concept to understand.
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There is a difference between technical cheating and malicious knowing cheating.

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Old 03-12-2008, 07:34 PM   #26
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There is a difference between technical cheating and malicious knowing cheating.

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It wasn't even technical cheating.

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As for $17,000 provided to a second Cuban athlete, Peterson denies any
failure to monitor the situation, and does not agree that this matter even belongs in
the NCAA investigation. BYU initially agreed.
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This second Cuban showed up on a booster's doorstep as a refugee who
would be deported back to his country but for humanitarian aid. The $17,000 is an
eye-catching figure characterized by the NCAA as inducements given by a booster.
But virtually all the money identified in this investigation was paid to private legal
counsel to have this individual stay in the United States.


"What would any decent person have done?" asks Peterson. "This booster even now believes he did the right thing for this young man, who later joined the LDS church. The booster told the young man that if he accepted assistance he would not be able to play volleyball for BYU. This defection and assistance given had nothing to do with
the recruitment of a volleyball player."

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Old 03-12-2008, 09:09 PM   #27
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The issue is whether or not a person received benefits in an effort to get them to play at BYU. Not only did they not play at BYU, but they didn't get assistance until they understood it would mean they couldn't play at BYU.

Not a difficult concept to understand.
If it wasn't cheating, why did the coach resign?

Cheating is cheating.

Not a difficult concept to understand.
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If you believe the coach's version, then both BYU's firing of the coach and the NCAA penalties are very severe, and the wrongdoing was of a technical nature and not done purposefully to gain advantage (i.e. a bishop letting poor international students use a bike for free and someone taking pity on a Cuban refugee and putting up lawyer fees, etc.--nice things that would have done no matter if the recipients were athletes). Also, he accused his assistants of lying about him with motive to steal his job and BYU using him as a scapegoat (wouldn't be the first time).

His story is plausible but certainly one-sided.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:20 PM   #29
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The SL Trib "believed" it to be Cala, but clearly from Peterson and his attorney's response, it was somebody else.
The DNews article said that it was one of Cala's friends or teammates in Cuba or something like that - not Cala.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:24 PM   #30
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If it wasn't cheating, why did the coach resign?

Cheating is cheating.

Not a difficult concept to understand.
Why did the coach resign? It is almost as if Indy might believe that at the LDS Church owned University perception means *almost* as much as the truth.
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