I was talking with a former athlete

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by FMCoug

Because leather helmet football is completely irrelevant today.

I challenge all of you to prove my statement incorrect.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Why? Because it's accurate and doesn't favor BYU?

Lavell era smack is starting to get a little weak, but it's still important in that it built the current BYU fan base and program reputation which dwarves the U's and at least most of us were around to witness it. I can't think of anything about the 1930's relative program strength that has any bearing on today.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by jay santos

Lavell era smack is starting to get a little weak, but it's still important in that it built the current BYU fan base and program reputation which dwarves the U's and at least most of us were around to witness it. I can't think of anything about the 1930's relative program strength that has any bearing on today.

Yawn.

History starts from the beginning. Always has. Always will. Except, apparently, for BYU fans.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Yawn.

History starts from the beginning. Always has. Always will. Except, apparently, for BYU fans.

I'll give you the 20's and 30's if you want it that bad.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by jay santos

I'll give you the 20's and 30's if you want it that bad.

Just because it's not relative to your lifetime, doesn't mean it isn't relative.

[FMCoug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Yawn.

History starts from the beginning. Always has. Always will. Except, apparently, for BYU fans.

Fine. But there is also nothing wrong with saying that the Cold War is much more relevant to modern world politics than Alexander the Great.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Just because it's not relative to your lifetime, doesn't mean it isn't relative.

In my opinion, past history is only relevant as far as it translates to current program strength in the form of fan base, attendance, facilities, endowment, TV revenues, recruiting base, national recognition, etc.

[Indy Coug]

The only thing relevant about Bronco Nagurski is that he had a cool first name. Modern football has only existed since the 1960s. The brand of football played before then is so obsolete as to make it a complete waste of time to track and remember.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

The only thing relevant about Bronco Nagurski is that he had a cool first name. Modern football has only existed since the 1960s. The brand of football played before then is so obsolete as to make it a complete waste of time to track and remember.

As I said, history starts from the beginning. But if it helps you to feel better about BYU being behind in the head to head series, more power to you.