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MikeWaters · 08-13-2007, 09:56 PM

The person who best embodies the unique American experience through his original music? The person whose ballads define an era?

3 people come to mind off the top of my head.

Paul Simon, Bruce Springsteen, and Bob Dylan.

creekster · 08-13-2007, 09:58 PM

Aaron Copeland? Not ballads, but he certainly captuired a slcie of Americana.

MikeWaters · 08-13-2007, 10:00 PM

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Aaron Copeland? Not ballads, but he certainly captuired a slcie of Americana.

I'm talking more of a minstrel. The one guy who is the musical experience. not a songwriter in the formal sense (i.e. the person who writes Chicago's hit songs). or a composer/conductor.

creekster · 08-13-2007, 10:05 PM

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I'm talking more of a minstrel. The one guy who is the musical experience. not a songwriter in the formal sense (i.e. the person who writes Chicago's hit songs). or a composer/conductor.

How about Woody Guthrie?

Or Hank Williams?

UtahDan · 08-13-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

The person who best embodies the unique American experience through his original music? The person whose ballads define an era?

3 people come to mind off the top of my head.

Paul Simon, Bruce Springsteen, and Bob Dylan.

I would subtract Springsteen, the other two I agree with. Another angle here is that Dylan and Simon are really very serious poets in their own right as well even if you substract the music.

creekster · 08-13-2007, 10:08 PM

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I would subtract Springsteen, the other two I agree with. Another angle here is that Dylan and Simon are really very serious poets in their own right as well even if you substract the music.

What's wriong with Springsteen?

Requiem · 08-13-2007, 10:09 PM

I take it you mean in addition to Eliza R. Snow?

I make a distinction between songwriters and composers. Great American songwriters would include Irving Berlin, Gershwin, Frederick Loewe, Dylan, Simon, Wilson and Springsteen.

In my humble opinion, Creekster is right on - Copeland is far and away the greatest American composer.

creekster · 08-13-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

I take it you mean in addition to Eliza R. Snow?

I make a distinction between songwriters and composers. Great American songwriters would include Irving Berlin, Gershwin, Frederick Loewe, Dylan, Simon, Wilson and Springsteen.

In my humble opinion, Creekster is right on - Copeland is far and away the greatest American composer.

I think you may be selling Woody Guthrie a little short in the minstrel area, which is what Waters described. His songs remain evocative of his era and are the aural equivalent of WPA murals for that time period

Jeff Lebowski · 08-13-2007, 10:15 PM

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I would subtract Springsteen, the other two I agree with. Another angle here is that Dylan and Simon are really very serious poets in their own right as well even if you substract the music.

I can't comment on the poetic quality of their work, but I like Springsteen's music better.

Requiem · 08-13-2007, 10:15 PM

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I think you may be selling Woody Guthrie a little short in the minstrel area, which is what Waters described. His songs remain evocative of his era and are the aural equivalent of WPA murals for that time period

Agreed - my bad.

08-13-2007, 09:56 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Who is the Great American Songwriter? The person who best embodies the unique American experience through his original music? The person whose ballads define an era? 3 people come to mind off the top of my head. Paul Simon, Bruce Springsteen, and Bob Dylan.

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creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	Aaron Copeland? Not ballads, but he certainly captuired a slcie of Americana. __________________ Sorry for th e tpyos.

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Requiem Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 474	I take it you mean in addition to Eliza R. Snow? I make a distinction between songwriters and composers. Great American songwriters would include Irving Berlin, Gershwin, Frederick Loewe, Dylan, Simon, Wilson and Springsteen. In my humble opinion, Creekster is right on - Copeland is far and away the greatest American composer.