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SeattleUte · 01-22-2007, 04:36 AM

There's a strangeness to Indianapolis and Seattle being part of the same nation particularly if you bear the arc of history in mind. I wonder at the reaction here if Paul Allen accepted the NFC trophy and "humbly" gave the "glory to God," and then Mike Holmgren said, "We did it with the Lord, the Lord found a way for us to do it." I think what would happen here is shocked silence, followed by nervous laughter followed by really loud laughter.

il Padrino Ute · 01-22-2007, 04:47 AM

That's because Seattle is full of heathens and hippies.

YOhio · 01-22-2007, 04:49 AM

I was surprised that the Indy owner and Dungy made those comments, but I didn't see anything inappropriate about them. I think they were made out of humble gratitude and not in a condescending manner.

The interesting thing about Holmgren is that he's a very faithful Christian, but he keeps it pretty close to his sleeve. As you pointed out the likely fan reaction of Seattle fans, it's not hard to see why. He would probably get the same reaction in most other NFL gigs. When discussing his decision to go to BYU he made the following statement.

"Then a job opened up in Utah. Some of our friends questioned our judgment in accepting it. But Kathy and I viewed my position as assistant coach at Brigham Young University (BYU) as a unique opportunity to share our faith with the players, coaches, and students on a predominantly Mormon campus."
http://www.thegoal.com/players/coach...gran_mike.html

8ballrollin · 01-22-2007, 04:57 AM

Maybe not in word - the Holmgrens let their actions do the talking.

If you recall, Mike Holmgren's wife and daughter didn't attend the Super Bowl last year because they were on medical mission in Africa - a trip managed by the Evangelical church where they are members.

Outside the realm of Mayor Nickels there are a lot of religious people in the PS area, but, yes, I agree they are not a vocal at sporting events (thankfully) as in other parts of the country.

SeattleUte · 01-22-2007, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

I was surprised that the Indy owner and Dungy made those comments, but I didn't see anything inappropriate about them. I think they were made out of humble gratitude and not in a condescending manner.

The interesting thing about Holmgren is that he's a very faithful Christian, but he keeps it pretty close to his sleeve. As you pointed out the likely fan reaction of Seattle fans, it's not hard to see why. He would probably get the same reaction in most other NFL gigs. When discussing his decision to go to BYU he made the following statement.

"Then a job opened up in Utah. Some of our friends questioned our judgment in accepting it. But Kathy and I viewed my position as assistant coach at Brigham Young University (BYU) as a unique opportunity to share our faith with the players, coaches, and students on a predominantly Mormon campus."
http://www.thegoal.com/players/coach...gran_mike.html

I wasn't being critical so much as expressing wonderment at the variety of cultures in our great nation.

cougjunkie · 01-22-2007, 05:00 AM

Is Seattle still the number 1 suicide city on the US? I remember when i used to sell hottubs one of our manufacturers was in woodinville and whenever someone would come in to their store they would sell those flashing LED lights like they were going out of style, they would have signs all over promoting Light therapy. Supposedly due to so many rainy and dreary days people really buy in to that stuff.

YOhio · 01-22-2007, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I wasn't being critical so much as expressing wonderment at the variety of cultures in our great nation.

It is interesting. Moving from Utah to the Midwest surprised me in a lot of ways. One way was the everyday vocabulary with which people use that indicate their religious belief. In particular, instead of saying "Have a good day," people would say, "Have a blessed day." I also look forward to the sweet lady at my favorite fast food place who always says, "God bless you," as she hands me my change.

That never happened in Utah and I doubt it happens often on the coasts. I don't think either way is better, it's just different.

8ballrollin · 01-22-2007, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

Maybe not in word - the Holmgrens let their actions do the talking.

If you recall, Mike Holmgren's wife and daughter didn't attend the Super Bowl last year because they were on medical mission in Africa - a trip managed by the Evangelical church where they are members.

Outside the realm of Mayor Nickels there are a lot of religious people in the PS area, but, yes, I agree they are not a vocal at sporting events (thankfully) as in other parts of the country.

A few others, just off the top of my head:

Archaea · 01-22-2007, 05:10 AM

Isn't "God" a verboten topic in Seattle, unless you're using it as "God damn it"?

Seattle is a cool town from my few visits, but I wouldn't ever let on I had religious inclinations there. It does produce some beautiful women and great scenary.

RockyBalboa · 01-22-2007, 05:45 AM

I honestly didn't have a problem with it.

Tony Dungy is known in the media and coaching circles as being highly spiritual. After his son died he we was here in SLC not a short time afterwards at a religious convention as the keynote speaker. I applaud him for having the courage to give thanks the way he did without sounding arrogant about it at the same time.

01-22-2007, 04:36 AM	#1
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	You'd never hear the Seahawks' owner and coach praise the Lord for an NFC championshp There's a strangeness to Indianapolis and Seattle being part of the same nation particularly if you bear the arc of history in mind. I wonder at the reaction here if Paul Allen accepted the NFC trophy and "humbly" gave the "glory to God," and then Mike Holmgren said, "We did it with the Lord, the Lord found a way for us to do it." I think what would happen here is shocked silence, followed by nervous laughter followed by really loud laughter. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

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il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	That's because Seattle is full of heathens and hippies. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

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cougjunkie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 5,741	Is Seattle still the number 1 suicide city on the US? I remember when i used to sell hottubs one of our manufacturers was in woodinville and whenever someone would come in to their store they would sell those flashing LED lights like they were going out of style, they would have signs all over promoting Light therapy. Supposedly due to so many rainy and dreary days people really buy in to that stuff. __________________ LINCECUM!

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Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Isn't "God" a verboten topic in Seattle, unless you're using it as "God damn it"? Seattle is a cool town from my few visits, but I wouldn't ever let on I had religious inclinations there. It does produce some beautiful women and great scenary. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

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RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	I honestly didn't have a problem with it. Tony Dungy is known in the media and coaching circles as being highly spiritual. After his son died he we was here in SLC not a short time afterwards at a religious convention as the keynote speaker. I applaud him for having the courage to give thanks the way he did without sounding arrogant about it at the same time. __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

01-22-2007, 04:49 AM	#3
YOhio AKA SeattleNewt Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,055	I was surprised that the Indy owner and Dungy made those comments, but I didn't see anything inappropriate about them. I think they were made out of humble gratitude and not in a condescending manner. The interesting thing about Holmgren is that he's a very faithful Christian, but he keeps it pretty close to his sleeve. As you pointed out the likely fan reaction of Seattle fans, it's not hard to see why. He would probably get the same reaction in most other NFL gigs. When discussing his decision to go to BYU he made the following statement. "Then a job opened up in Utah. Some of our friends questioned our judgment in accepting it. But Kathy and I viewed my position as assistant coach at Brigham Young University (BYU) as a unique opportunity to share our faith with the players, coaches, and students on a predominantly Mormon campus." http://www.thegoal.com/players/coach...gran_mike.html

01-22-2007, 04:57 AM	#4
8ballrollin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: WA Posts: 1,287	Maybe not in word - the Holmgrens let their actions do the talking. If you recall, Mike Holmgren's wife and daughter didn't attend the Super Bowl last year because they were on medical mission in Africa - a trip managed by the Evangelical church where they are members. Outside the realm of Mayor Nickels there are a lot of religious people in the PS area, but, yes, I agree they are not a vocal at sporting events (thankfully) as in other parts of the country.