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Old 08-12-2015, 03:37 PM   #1
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I looked up the results from a local cat 5 crit. Guy who won is in my club. I looked him up on strava. He recently did a 60 mile rally with a few rollers, averaged about 250 watts the whole way. I'm depressed. I could never do 250 watts for 60 miles.
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I can now do 265 watts for 60 minutes straight on the trainer.
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I looked up the results from a local cat 5 crit. Guy who won is in my club. I looked him up on strava. He recently did a 60 mile rally with a few rollers, averaged about 250 watts the whole way. I'm depressed. I could never do 250 watts for 60 miles.
Crits are different. Are you asking how fast you need to be to win? You are fast enough to compete.

I would say 260-275 for 50 miles.
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Depends on what level of racing I suppose.

This is the guy who won the local P123 race both Saturday and Sunday. Look at this power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BrvLkDkFc
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I think I know which guy I was talking about in the above post where he did 250 watts for 60 miles....well, now I have a bit more experience.

It's not all about watts!!!

For example, that guy weighs a lot more than me. That means he has to do more watts to reach the same watts/kg as me.

Moreover, if it is the same guy, I performed about as well as him in a "race rally" last summer before I had put in serious miles. It's a rally that is not a race, but treated as a race.

And here's probably the most important part. It's kind of dumb to idolize guys who are top finishers in Cat 4/5. If they are that good, they are going to cat up to 3 when they first get the chance. If they are not so good, they are going to hang out at 4 just to win beginner races.

So what does that mean? No one need idolize me. Several podiums in local crits in my first 12 races. Just means I am one of the fastest among the slowest racers.

It's more of an achievement to be fast among the fast guys.

Having said that, there's a HUGE jump from being a rec rider to being on the podium as a Cat 4. However, as I have demonstrated, with serious training over less than one year, one can make that leap.
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