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Old 06-16-2008, 05:01 AM   #1
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Default A third in Guantanamo aren't terrorists?

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/detainees/story/38773.html

That according to the former Secretary of the Army.
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Old 06-16-2008, 05:33 AM   #2
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That according to the former Secretary of the Army.
Are you saying 2/3 are? That's more than I expected. Whew! I feel a lot better.
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Old 06-16-2008, 03:32 PM   #3
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I like this little throw away:

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Of course, Guantanamo also houses Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, who along with four other high-profile detainees faces military commission charges. Cases also have been opened against 15 other detainees for assorted offenses, such as attending al Qaida training camps.
Although I will defend the civil liberties of citizens and lawful aliens, enemy combatants don't deserve the same protections. Nonetheless, PR will dictate those not associated be treated fairly and to be released sooner rather than later.
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Although I will defend the civil liberties of citizens and lawful aliens, enemy combatants don't deserve the same protections. Nonetheless, PR will dictate those not associated be treated fairly and to be released sooner rather than later.
Assuming 1/3 are innocent, what do they deserve?
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Assuming 1/3 are innocent, what do they deserve?
A daily picnic-style buffet line for their meals.
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A daily picnic-style buffet line for their meals.
Is that all it takes now? I will have some people come by and pick you up. Now with free workout area!
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Assuming 1/3 are innocent, what do they deserve?
If we know they are innocent, and I can't know what we supposedly know, they should be released.

However, given the nature of the dragnet, I'm surprised we've done as well as we've done.
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If we know they are innocent, and I can't know what we supposedly know, they should be released.

However, given the nature of the dragnet, I'm surprised we've done as well as we've done.
You could make a pretty decent argument that they are all jihadists.

Of the 1/3 that were innocent upon arrival, I would bet almost all of them have now become so jaded and angered by their treatment that they would be willing to wage jihad if they were released.

It would take a real Andy Dufresne to leave Gitmo as he entered it...an innocent man filled with hope.
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You could make a pretty decent argument that they are all jihadists.

Of the 1/3 that were innocent upon arrival, I would bet almost all of them have now become so jaded and angered by their treatment that they would be willing to wage jihad if they were released.

It would take a real Andy Dufresne to leave Gitmo as he entered it...an innocent man filled with hope.
That's a damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I remember the Egyptian physician supporting Bin Laden, became a jihadist as a result of his government's imprisonment of him. His name starts with a Z.

At one level, once one recognizing a mistake, one should correct it.

At another level, releasing a potentially dangerous person into the field doesn't give me warm fuzzies.

It would be surprising if the detainees do not harbor significant resentment to their confinement. Although from what I can tell it has been relatively humane.

That is the key question, how does one release these persons so that they don't become jihadists? Or do we just recognize that's the price of our mistakes and deal with it?
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than 2/3's go free.
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