A preemptive war against Iran

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by BlueK

I can't read persian, or whatever the name of his language is. So yes, I have to rely on translators doing their best to convey the message into a language I can understand. Are you disputing that he said he wanted to destroy Israel as soon as possible?

What is "Israel"?

Does that mean killing people, or does that mean dissolving the govt. for something more just?

Mindful has already discussed this.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

What is "Israel"?

Does that mean killing people, or does that mean dissolving the govt. for something more just?

Mindful has already discussed this.

I'm sure Ahmadinejad is only interested in the peaceful transition of power in Israel via normal democratic methods. Why wouldn't he be.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

I'm sure Ahmadinejad is only interested in the peaceful transition of power in Israel via normal democratic methods. Why wouldn't he be.

I'm sure the US and Israel want to diplomatically solve their differences, and go to war as a last result.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I'm sure the US and Israel want to diplomatically solve their differences, and go to war as a last result.

Agreed.

[MikeWaters]

This is Cali and Tex if they were paid to learn us:

http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_stor...92b7e5e96c3c09

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

What is "Israel"?

Does that mean killing people, or does that mean dissolving the govt. for something more just?

Mindful has already discussed this.

yeah, I'm sure he's just a nice man who wouldn't start a war with Israel. Bush is a nice man too but he has no problems starting wars.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

"Wiping off the map" is an American idiom, isn't it? Are you saying that A. said that American idiom?

This is from almost 3 years ago, but it backs up what Blue K was saying.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/me...jad/index.html

[MikeWaters]

IPU I read that article, and I saw no mention of any attack.

[il Padrino Ute]

From the article:

The president then said: "And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," according to a quote published by IRNA.

Ahmadinejad is quoted as saying, "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."

It wasn't expressed specifically that there would be an attack, but I believe it can be reasonably assumed that Ahmadinejad would do it. Why else would be testing nuclear weapons?

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

How many people in Israel would die in the attempt? Tens of thousands? More?

Do you trade 100,000 Israeli lives to possibly prevent a future unknown threat?

I would assume that a lot of Israelis would die. I think the answer to your second question is no, not probably not.

I'm just saying we won't know until later whether it was the right cost benefit analysis. As long as Iran never uses a nuke then we were right. If an Iranian nuke ever goes off in a city that 100K will seem much more acceptable. I don't know the answer, but I do know what the Iranian government says it wants to do. Whether it will do it, who knows.