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Old 11-05-2008, 04:51 AM   #11
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:53 AM   #12
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Yes, in one sense it is a beautiful day, but I wonder if libs would be saying the same thing if the first black president was a conservative republican?
A black conservative republican running for president?? I think a smurf would be more likely.
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:54 AM   #13
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A black conservative republican running for president?? I think a smurf would be more likely.
J.C. Watts, Michael Steele... it's not like they're not out there. I had always thought that the first black president would be republican.
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News flash: He's just as white as he is black.
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:58 AM   #15
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J.C. Watts, Michael Steele... it's not like they're not out there. I had always thought that the first black president would be republican.
Watts bailed on the party earlier this year.
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Old 11-05-2008, 06:13 AM   #16
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Watts bailed on the party earlier this year.
Okay, whatever. My point still stands. Black conservatives are uncle Tom's, not authentic blacks, so there's nothing to celebrate if one of them is elected.
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News flash: He's just as white as he is black.
Or even, how about just American vs. African American? BTW......had that not been pointed out by the media, I never would have know he was black. Would you?
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:22 AM   #18
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Regardless of how you feel about Obama, today is one of the most remarkable and moving moments in American history. To think that at the founding of this great nation, Obama would have been 3/5ths of a person. To think of all those who have bled and died for equal rights for minorities, whose greatest aspiration would have been freedom for them and others, never even contemplating the possibility of a black president. To think that a mere 50 years ago, this nation was debating the merits of permitting blacks to eat in the same restaurant and drink from the same water fountain, and that an act as simple as sitting in the front of a bus would take courage and fortitude unlike anything most of us will ever experience.

Today is indeed one of the single greatest moments in American history. God bless America.

Now let's get started.
Does no one else find it interesting that Obama's heritage carries none of this history?

Furthermore, that after all this talk of "change," Cali focuses on race versus what this means in terms of future direction of the United States. Did race trump substance? Was Ferraro right?
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:38 PM   #19
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I am happy for the history of the country that a black man was elected president. But I'm not as giddy as some because this does not surprise me. I've been saying for years and years that America is not racist and that institutionalized racism is nearly non-existent.

People are saying, "Amazing! We elected a black man!" I'm thinking, "This is a shock?" Perhaps I'm just too forward-thinking.

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Does no one else find it interesting that Obama's heritage carries none of this history?

Furthermore, that after all this talk of "change," Cali focuses on race versus what this means in terms of future direction of the United States. Did race trump substance? Was Ferraro right?
Race undoubtedly played a huge factor for some. One must look no further than Colin Powell to see that. But I don't think we can say it was decisive in the election at large.

Obama was a wonderfully teflon candidate because of the Messianic campaign he ran. Works well for campaigns, if you can pull it off. Not so great for governing. We'll see how long the honeymoon lasts.
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Watts bailed on the party earlier this year.
He's come back. The past month he's been on Hannity every week railing on Obama.
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