The future of America

[MikeWaters]

If you want to know what the future of America is, I suggest you go to an amusement park or the equivalent.

I was just recently at Sea World. Which you may not know, actually has roller coaster rides, so it can count as an amusement park in the traditional way.

Lots of fat, stupid people bored out of their minds running around with fat, stupid kids, who expect the world to be handed to them.

Why do we have politicians that won't make hard choices and tell us the truth? Why do they just run up debts, mortgaging the future of this country? Because of the fat, stupid people they represent--THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT!

Some of us have been too nice for too long. It's time we start putting the stupid people in their place and take this country back.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If you want to know what the future of America is, I suggest you go to an amusement park or the equivalent.

I was just recently at Sea World. Which you may not know, actually has roller coaster rides, so it can count as an amusement park in the traditional way.

Lots of fat, stupid people bored out of their minds running around with fat, stupid kids, who expect the world to be handed to them.

Why do we have politicians that won't make hard choices and tell us the truth? Why do they just run up debts, mortgaging the future of this country? Because of the fat, stupid people they represent--THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT!

Some of us have been too nice for too long. It's time we start putting the stupid people in their place and take this country back.

Perhaps it's not too late, but I suppose we've had our day, and will continue a slow, gradual decline. That doesn't mean we shouldn't go down without a fight, but we should be as Sisyphus, willing to tote the rock up the hill, knowing it will slide down again before we summit.

I don't know what vision the socialists have, but it is one without merit.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Perhaps it's not too late, but I suppose we've had our day, and will continue a slow, gradual decline. That doesn't mean we shouldn't go down without a fight, but we should be as Sisyphus, willing to tote the rock up the hill, knowing it will slide down again before we summit.

I don't know what vision the socialists have, but it is one without merit.

why do you think liberals favor gun control and gutting any interpretation of the 2nd Amendment that allows for an armed citizenry?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

why do you think liberals favor gun control and gutting any interpretation of the 2nd Amendment that allows for an armed citizenry?

My anecdotal experience regarding life in socialist countries is one of general malaise. You just don't care about your culture or your future, because you don't have one. There is no social climbing because you stay within the economic strata into which you are born.

French don't rise up out of poverty but the future is never bright in France or even in Germany.

Only in countries where social stratas are not rigid is this possible. Capitalism makes it possible. To the extent we erode capitalistic principles we will erode incentives to improve and life will simply be acquiesced to. Socialism is a life of acquiescence and emotional malaise.

What's political life in France between the greves and foi gras?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Archaea

My anecdotal experience regarding life in socialist countries is one of general malaise. You just don't care about your culture or your future, because you don't have one. There is no social climbing because you stay within the economic strata into which you are born.

French don't rise up out of poverty but the future is never bright in France or even in Germany.

Only in countries where social stratas are not rigid is this possible. Capitalism makes it possible. To the extent we erode capitalistic principles we will erode incentives to improve and life will simply be acquiesced to. Socialism is a life of acquiescence and emotional malaise.

What's political life in France between the greves and foi gras?

We are Americans because someone wanted to get the hell out of the old world.

Yet here we go, traitors to America, trying to convert us into the Old World.

It's sickening.

[Levin]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If you want to know what the future of America is, I suggest you go to an amusement park or the equivalent.

I was just recently at Sea World. Which you may not know, actually has roller coaster rides, so it can count as an amusement park in the traditional way.

Lots of fat, stupid people bored out of their minds running around with fat, stupid kids, who expect the world to be handed to them.

Why do we have politicians that won't make hard choices and tell us the truth? Why do they just run up debts, mortgaging the future of this country? Because of the fat, stupid people they represent--THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT!

Some of us have been too nice for too long. It's time we start putting the stupid people in their place and take this country back.

You must have loved WALL-E! Very original observations.

Fatalists and cynics -- the future does not belong to you.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Levin

You must have loved WALL-E! Very original observations.

Fatalists and cynics -- the future does not belong to you.

turning us into USSR. Sorry, future does not belong to you.

[Levin]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

turning us into USSR.

You're more of a crazed wingnut than I thought.

Go ask the Germans, Swiss, Swedes, Norwegians, Finns, Japanese, Taiwanese, Canadian . . . how they are surviving under their soviet regimes.

lol.

Try to be coherent and not such a demagogue. Will help you not got ignored instantly on this issue by thinking people.

[MikeWaters]

America is the land of opportunity.

It has always operated under the contract that if you work hard, you will be rewarded.

If you work not, you will not be rewarded.

As liberals win, they go away from that contract, and they form an underclass that is dependent on a government that will become increasingly powerful and tyrranical, until one day we realize that we are shackled and imprisoned. In chains that we have forged ourselves.

Incentivize work and propsperity and entrepreneurship and invention. And we will all be lifted. Do not, and we all fall.

We have people like Chino, who I assume to have a triple digit IQ, yet can't believe that unemployment benefits disincentivize job seeking.

If we are to enslave ourselves, let us at least be honest about it.

[Levin]

Healthcare reform does not breach this contract.

If anything, it helps preserve it.

Healthcare costs are becoming ruinous, eating up a finite pie so that education and other essential government services are suffering.

Publicly insuring more people is a start to get a handle on the costs b/c government can dictate the price it will pay -- and what it will pay for -- very well. Plus, it places more of healthcare costs in the public pie, and so the need for the ultimate reform will become ever more transparent.

Healthcare is a part of our society that is so broken, that we need a collective fix.

And healthcare is too expensive for the working poor to afford. What are they to do? They will still be poor with the government's help with health. There is the rest of their lives America continues to force, incentivize, and encourage them to make better.