ACLU on Texas FLDS raid

[Venkman]

I have serious problems with the ACLU, but I agree with them here.

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695277280,00.html

Religion is never an excuse for abuse," the ACLU said. "But, exposure to a religion's beliefs, however unorthodox, is not itself abuse and may not constitutionally be labeled abuse.

[UtahDan]

No matter how unorthodox? Okay, then nothing would be illegal because it is simply unorthodox religion. What a silly statement. A cult that taught children to sodomize pets would not be abuse, it is just unorthodox religion. They think the constitution says this? Wow.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

No matter how unorthodox? Okay, then nothing would be illegal because it is simply unorthodox religion. What a silly statement. A cult that taught children to sodomize pets would not be abuse, it is just unorthodox religion. They think the constitution says this? Wow.

They also think the constitution says it's okay for groups like NAMBLA to have a right to express their love and right to pedophilia.

Gotta love the ACLU.

[MikeWaters]

Rocky is a fascist. But we already knew that.

The key point in the article is that the ACLU is all about talk on this issue, and not about action.

[Venkman]

Right, how much more "monitoring" needs to take place? Time to act.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Rocky is a fascist. But we already knew that.

The key point in the article is that the ACLU is all about talk on this issue, and not about action.

And Mike is a pedophiliac at heart. Let's let an organization that likes to fuck little boys have their say.

Yeah, that's what the constitution is all about.

Let's twist and distort the meaning of an inspired document so that we can continue to let abuse be prevalent and lack the moral strength to condemn it.

Nice facade you got going there Mike. I know your point was to needle me and get a reaction out of me. Well you got it. Congratulations. Having been a victim of abuse I don't take this issue with the same level of jocularity that you seem to revel in.

You lack an ethical code.

Got any other inner demons besides your defense of pedophiliacs rights you'd like to share with the group while we're at it?

[MikeWaters]

Rocky, you lack an appreciation of the constitution.

What about groups that advocate for legal use of marijuana? Or any other number of activities that I find distasteful?

You could never stand for a principle, if it aided someone or a group you despised.

Do I like or support flag burning? No. But I think it should be legal.

At the end of the day, I believe in the 1st amendment, and you don't. And guess what? I think you have the right to talk about rescinding the 1st amendment!!! Ironic, huh?

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Rocky, you lack an appreciation of the constitution.

What about groups that advocate for legal use of marijuana? Or any other number of activities that I find distasteful?

You could never stand for a principle, if it aided someone or a group you despised.

Do I like or support flag burning? No. But I think it should be legal.

At the end of the day, I believe in the 1st amendment, and you don't. And guess what? I think you have the right to talk about rescinding the 1st amendment!!! Ironic, huh?

It's not about standing for something. That's where you and I disagree. You act as if you're making this "lone wolf" stand, simply because it's not popular. That's pure hogwash.

I don't agree that pedophilia is protected under the constitution.

I don't believe the constitution protects the right to fuck young boys and abuse them. I don't believe they have a right to express that they have the right to do that either.

If that's your understanding of the constitution then that would explain your lack of an ethical core.

I do not believe flag burning and pedophilia are the same thing either. There's a fundamental difference in the people railing against governmental abuse, as opposed to the rape of a small boy.

I do not equate freedom of speech and assembly with the right to abuse the innocents.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

It's not about standing for something. That's where you and I disagree. You act as if you're making this "lone wolf" stand, simply because it's not popular. That's pure hogwash.

I don't agree that pedophilia is protected under the constitution.

I don't believe the constitution protects the right to fuck young boys and abuse them. I don't believe they have a right to express that they have the right to do that either.

If that's your understanding of the constitution then that would explain your lack of an ethical core.

I do not believe flag burning and pedophilia are the same thing either. There's a fundamental difference in the people railing against governmental abuse, as opposed to the rape of a small boy.

I do not equate freedom of speech and assembly with the right to abuse the innocents.

Interesting. You would imprison someone for mere pedophilia?

After all, we are talking about the desire, not the action when we use that word.

You would send to prison someone that has the urge or attraction, but has never acted on it.

Pre-crime. You really do have a crystal ball.

With all the threatening things you have said on this board, perhaps you would advocate that YOU should be imprisoned, based on your advocacy and desires, urges, and attractions.

But your are a hypocrite, so you would never agree to that.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Interesting. You would imprison someone for mere pedophilia?

After all, we are talking about the desire, not the action when we use that word.

You would send to prison someone that has the urge or attraction, but has never acted on it.

Pre-crime. You really do have a crystal ball.

With all the threatening things you have said on this board, perhaps you would advocate that YOU should be imprisoned, based on your advocacy and desires, urges, and attractions.

But your are a hypocrite, so you would never agree to that.

I haven't threatened a single person Mike. Not one.

I have challenged that those like Indy, Adam and yourself would never say the things in person that you do on here. You enjoy getting rises out of people behind the facade of an internet persona. My contention is you wouldn't do the same in person and I think you know it.

If you can find a link where I ever challenged anyone to a fight by all means, go get it and prove me wrong.

And yes I would imprison someone if they committed the rape of a child.

And yes I don't think a group that thinks its okay to rape a child has the right to say that they have the right to rape children.

Even though you do.

You're not for torture, but since we're talking about hypocrisy and pointing out, I see that you're alright defending torture and rape at the same time....or I'm sorry...I mean defending that these guys have the right to say it's okay to do these things. Make no mistake,,,,rape, abuse and pedophilia on a child is an act or torture in many forms. Yeah,,,clearly I'm a fascist.

You stand on sand here and are quickly sinking. Get it together.