Gotta love Novak.

[Cali Coug]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-r...s_b_56610.html

[MikeWaters]

I love Novak. He is one of the only semi-honest political commentators.

[8ballrollin]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-r...s_b_56610.html

That blogger is a moron..."For Neo-cons like Novak probably yes. They sure can't run on the war, national security, family values or political integrity."

Novak is no Neo-Con. He opposed the war in Iraq long before it started.

Long diatribe against Novak by Frum (Neo-Con):
http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/frum031903.asp

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I agree he doesn't get everything right, but he is right to call out Novak for his quote.

Why? Because what Novak said is untrue? Or because Novak had the chutzpah to say it?

You are trying to be the PC police and it is boring.

Is it really that shocking for someone to say that Americans may be less likely to vote for a black, woman, or Mormon? Get a grip.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I see you have now joined the "ballsy" camp of Rocky. What he said simply bolsters my argument in the NAACP thread.

I didn't read the NAACP thread.

So Novak has endorsed the idea that racism and sexism exist. Only a fool would believe it doesn't.

What am I missing here?

Is it cynical? Yes. Are you upset that Novak, the self-proclaimed Prince of Darkness, is cynical? LOL.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I see you have now joined the "ballsy" camp of Rocky. What he said simply bolsters my argument in the NAACP thread.

But what happened to your balls when Robin was around?

What, that the NAACP is about skin color and not ideology?

[FMCoug]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

What he said simply bolsters my argument in the NAACP thread.

The "Republicans are Racists" thread? Is your definiton of racisim one way? Is it possible for African Amercians to be racist? The answer of course is yes. And some of the organizations you are championing are as racist as it gets.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Of course they exist. But for racism and sexism to be the "hope of the Republican party" is a travesty for American politics if true.

It's a sign of the desperation of people that want to maintain power.

Non-racists hope that others are racist so that they can keep power. Or so it is possible.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

That the Republicans are apparently content to be the party of white interests (cue the Tex post claiming it is the blacks' fault that Republicans don't love them).

How many whites and Latinos are members of the NAACP? How many organizations share the same ideology as the NAACP that have many whites and Latinos as members?

In some ways, the NAACP's ideology is very much tied to skin color, and, as I mentioned, you can't have an organization in existence that doesn't have an ideology.

You did change your tune about the NAACP later in the thread, so I'll give you credit for that.

I have no idea how many whites or Latinos are in the NAACP but how many of those Latinos and whites would vote for a Republican?

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

You did change your tune about the NAACP later in the thread, so I'll give you credit for that.

I have no idea how many whites or Latinos are in the NAACP but how many of those Latinos and whites would vote for a Republican?

At the risk of starting the debate all over again, see example of Democrats visiting Utah; what are the odds of the Democrats carrying Utah?