We're screwed

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

by the way, try getting a loan outside of Las Vegas and Phoenix. Much easier. I got a home loan for 5.375%.

fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Who cares about byu economists any way.

[All-American]

Originally Posted by Tex

If I follow your analogy, I'm not sure I've heard Obama make a lot of speeches touting how much safer he's made America.

But let's be fair here: presidents don't actually deserve as much credit or blame for economic gyrations as they get. Nonetheless, the political reality is that if you're in the Oval Office, you carry the burden. And Obama embraced this. No one forced Obama to propose a huge pork-spending bill, call it a stimulus plan, and sell it on the basis that it would reduce unemployment increases by as much as 2% over projections.

The truth is, if things improve he'll take credit for it, and if they worsen he'll blame Bush. S.O.P. for both parties. Considering how Bush was treated, especially in the wake of 9/11's economic impact, il Pad is completely within proper (political) bounds to say Obama should now "own" this economy.

All right, then, but let's be consistent. If Obama now gets all of the blame for the bad economy, then Bush should get all of the blame for the worst attack upon American Soil since Pearl Harbor.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by All-American

All right, then, but let's be consistent. If Obama now gets all of the blame for the bad economy, then Bush should get all of the blame for the worst attack upon American Soil since Pearl Harbor.

Let's dump on them all.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Who cares about byu economists any way.

1. How do you know undergrad economics is low on the food chain? By what metric?
2. What makes you think I've stopped at BYU?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

1. How do you know undergrad economics is low on the food chain? By what metric?
2. What makes you think I've stopped at BYU?

1. I've seen the rankings and BYU ranks lowly in most things unfortunately. Administration doesn't give a damn about improving its rankings. Administration only cares about its devotionals.

2. Who cares? Don't even respond. Mormon wannabes are silly. Let me know when a BYU related graduate actually wins a Nobel Prize in Economics. And that person happens to be you.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

1. I've seen the rankings and BYU ranks lowly in most things unfortunately. Administration doesn't give a damn about improving its rankings. Administration only cares about its devotionals.

2. Who cares? Don't even respond. Mormon wannabes are silly. Let me know when a BYU related graduate actually wins a Nobel Prize in Economics. And that person happens to be you.

This reminds me of the silly but fun discussion about Obama's scholastic achievements. BYU's rankings have been on an upward trajectory since they've had rankings. They've plummeted recently, but rankings are a noisy time series. Anyhow, take a look at BYU's economics department:

Mark Showalter: Sr. Economist, White House Council of Economic Advisers

James Kearl: Special Asst. to the Secretary of Defense, Special Asst. to US Trade
Representative , National Bureau of Economic Research

James McDonald: pioneer in distribution families

Val Lambson: among leading pure theorists

Kerk Philips: U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee

great representation in policymaking, data collection, empirics and theory

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Chino, just accept the fact that your political hero made a bad economy worse.

Based on what?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

This reminds me of the silly but fun discussion about Obama's scholastic achievements. BYU's rankings have been on an upward trajectory since they've had rankings. They've plummeted recently, but rankings are a noisy time series. Anyhow, take a look at BYU's economics department:

Mark Showalter: Sr. Economist, White House Council of Economic Advisers

James Kearl: Special Asst. to the Secretary of Defense, Special Asst. to US Trade
Representative , National Bureau of Economic Research

James McDonald: pioneer in distribution families

Val Lambson: among leading pure theorists

Kerk Philips: U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee

great representation in policymaking, data collection, empirics and theory

That impresses you? You're too easily impressed. Go look at a real economics department. Of course, they're mostly socialists, Keynsian economists and what not, but that's not much. I may be mistaken, but it seems I know Kearl, and he's not a bad guy if I remember correctly.

Except in Accounting and Engineering, BYU has plummeted in most departments. BYU law is in shambles, when it was once a proud school headed upwards. Our most recent Dean is a guy, who is probably a great human being, but with limited or no outside connections, as opposed to past Presidents.

Its students stay too frequently in Utah. It is too concerned with the appearnce of religiositiy rather than the actual devotion to spirituality and devotion to humanity.

BYU's research aim is pathetic, (what is it research in comparison to let's say, University of Texas at Austin?) it will never achieve Ivy League status and hires too frequently from within. Its staff ris limited in what it can publish and administration does nothing to promote its successful professors.

We need to stop hiring GAs as university presidents. They don't belong there!

[Archaea]

Currently, the strength of the school is the academic quality of the students. But our culture seems to be stifling their academic and scholastic progression. We shall lament the lack of scholastic progression as a collective, not speaking individualistically. Certainly, individuals fight the trend and work outside the mold but our culture only promotes the "enter to learn about earning, and go forth to earn" mentality.

This is very frustrating because we as a people are not reaching our potential.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

That impresses you? You're too easily impressed. Go look at a real economics department. Of course, they're mostly socialists, Keynsian economists and what not, but that's not much.

Except in Accounting and Engineering, BYU has plummeted in most departments. BYU law is in shambles, when it was once a proud school headed upwards. Our most recent Dean is a guy, who is probably a great human being, but with limited or no outside connections, as opposed to past Presidents.

Its students stay too frequently in Utah. It is too concerned with the appearnce of religiositiy rather than the actual devotion to spirituality and devotion to humanity.

BYU's research aim is pathetic, (what is it research in comparison to let's say, University of Texas at Austin?) it will never achieve Ivy League status and hires too frequently from within. Its staff ris limited in what it can publish and administration does nothing to promote its successful professors.

We need to stop hiring GAs as university presidents. They don't belong there!

I honestly have no idea what impresses you, other than fitness. You have said multiple times that attending Harvard, Yale, Oxford, etc. are not impressive. You also don't think BYU is impressive. Exactly what is impressive? Can Chino's resume honestly only impress you if he wins a Nobel Prize in Economics (as you suggested)? If so, I am going to say you have unusually high standards for being impressed.