This is just sad

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Interestingly, the most peaceful Muslim nations are NOT in the Middle East, you guessed it, Indonesia and Malaysia.

most muslims don't live in the middle east. 70-75% live in south & southeast asia.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

So, Mindful, to what do you attribute the growth of the violent factions of Islam?

Is it inherent in the religion itself? The product of its socio-political environment? Just the result of a few really bad guys?

Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

As far as i know the vast majority of muslim people and the most prominent of muslim leaders have no conflict of living with eachother in peace..so now it wouldnot be very difficult to realise who are really the "BAD GUYS" and how they get support ,gun and money and why.

My question is why has true Islam been hijacked (bad pun, I know) by these extreme elements? You never, for example, hear of a Buddhist or a Mormon blowing himself up in a subway. So what is it about Islam that has allowed this phenomenon? Is it merely the unstable geo-political environment? Or is it something inherent in the beliefs?

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

You never, for example, hear of a Buddhist or a Mormon blowing himself up in a subway.

Are you sure about that?

http://artsci.wustl.edu/~copeland/aum1.html

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

Are you sure about that?

http://artsci.wustl.edu/~copeland/aum1.html

The Aum Cult is not buddhist. They are their own cult/religion.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

The Aum Cult is not buddhist. They are their own cult/religion.

my bad. but most of their beliefs were drawn from buddhism.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

Are you sure about that?

http://artsci.wustl.edu/~copeland/aum1.html

you understand, of course, that I am using exaggeration to frame the question.

[nikuman]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

my bad. but most of their beliefs were drawn from buddhism.

Not quite. I've done a lot of study on them and they were more apocalyptic Christian than Buddhist. In typical Japanese fashion, they muddled everything together until they had brainwashed followers drinking the used bathwater of Mr. I-don't-need-no-steenkin'-razor.

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

My question is why has true Islam been hijacked (bad pun, I know) by these extreme elements? You never, for example, hear of a Buddhist or a Mormon blowing himself up in a subway. So what is it about Islam that has allowed this phenomenon? Is it merely the unstable geo-political environment? Or is it something inherent in the beliefs?

well it mostly expresses powerlessness/helpnlessness. you wouldnot blow yourself up /commit a suicid act if you have enough power and strengh to fight in the battlefield ,would you?

[Mindfulcoug]

here comes an idealogy in hindu which i found interesting to share
"Hinduism does not advise peace in the face of evil and injustice .The Aryan gods of the Vedic times were all warriors. Hindus also believe that if a person dies while waging a war in the defense of his country, he would attain the heaven of the warriors (viraswargam), a belief which often proved suicidal for many Rajput warriors and their rulers in medieval India when they came into conflict with the Muslim invaders"

i have no idea whether hindu guys are a keen in roadside bombs or not though.
and you wont catch me approve that.