Palin v. Hillary

[SoonerCoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

his going to Harvard is being tossed around as a qualification to be president by your good friend.

How about comparing everything since college?

Palin:
5 kids (credit for going through all those pregnancies)
Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (2 years)
Mayor of a city with a population of 7000.
Governor of a state with the population of Oklahoma City since 2006.

Obama:
Visiting law and government fellow in constitutional law at U of Chicago.
Associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill, and Galland
Illinois Senate 1996-2004
US Senate 2004-present (foreign relations committee, health labor and pensions, homeland security, and VA)

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by MudphudCoug

How about comparing everything since college?

Palin:
5 kids (credit for going through all those pregnancies)
Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (2 years)
Mayor of a city with a population of 7000.
Governor of a state with the population of Oklahoma City since 2006.

Obama:
Visiting law and government fellow in constitutional law at U of Chicago.
Associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill, and Galland
Illinois Senate 1996-2004
US Senate 2004-present (foreign relations committee, health labor and pensions, homeland security, and VA)

and the thing is, Palin actually took on vested corrupt interests. The ways these things go, you risk your life when you do that.

What did Obama do?

I can't think of a single courageous thing Obama did. Didn't he say that his vote in the Illinois legislature on the Iraq war was his most courageous moment?

Btw, I don't consider being in the Texas Senate to be anything meaningful as far as becoming presient.

[landpoke]

Originally Posted by MudphudCoug

I was looking for one of those pictures of Palin holding an automatic rifle that they've been showing on CNN, and google started spewing this sort of sacrilege instead:



Wasn't this no-doorknob painting (sans guns) originally a "Mormon" painting?

That is the most awesome thing I've ever seen. Jesus gonna bust a cap in someone's ass.

As for the debate at hand, I'll concede that Obama edges Palin by a nose. Thing is, Obama's running for President (leader of the free world, most powerful nation on earth, beacon of hope for the oppressed and all that) and Palin isn't. So I don't think it's unfair to hold Obama to a slightly (much) higher standard than Ms. Palin.

Yes I know, one step away, yada yada. McCain's not dead yet and I'd take two years of on the job training over the various cups of coffee that compromise Obama's career.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

and the thing is, Palin actually took on vested corrupt interests. The ways these things go, you risk your life when you do that.

What did Obama do?

I can't think of a single courageous thing Obama did. Didn't he say that his vote in the Illinois legislature on the Iraq war was his most courageous moment?

Btw, I don't consider being in the Texas Senate to be anything meaningful as far as becoming presient.

Bingo. Palin has done more with less.

[Clark Addison]

Originally Posted by Levin

After just one Palin speech, and watching of a few YouTube clips, the differences between these two -- as people -- has become amazingly stark in my eyes. We'd all grown used to Hillary, so used to her that we stopped seeing how plastic, engineered, calculated, and inauthentic she is. After watching just one speech by Palin, today's, it jolted me back into reality. Compare Hillary's coiffed calculation to Palin's naturalness -- it's remarkable!

That same comparison can be made between Hillary and almost any human on the planet.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MudphudCoug

Let's compare:

Palin:
Bachelors degree from Idaho.
5 kids.
Miss Congeniality.
Sports broadcaster.
Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (2 years)
Mayor of a city with a population of 7000.
Governor of a state with the population of Oklahoma City since 2006.

Obama:
BA from Columbia.
JD Harvard Law School, magna cum laude, editor of law review
Visiting law and government fellow in constitutional law at U of Chicago.
Associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill, and Galland
Illinois Senate 1996-2004
US Senate 2004-present (foreign relations committee, health labor and pensions, homeland security, and VA)

If you know of something that I missed from Palin's resume, let's add it.

Should I be more impressed by Obama's academic accomplishments than those of Palin? If so, why?

As for Obama being a senator, so what? It's legislative experience. Palin may have been governor for a sparsely populated state like Alaska, but she gained more executive experience in her short time than Obama has ever had in his life.

Try again.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Clark Addison

That same comparison can be made between Hillary and almost any human on the planet.

How about.....

Never mind. You said human. The pirates in the ride at Disneyland are human, are they?

[SoonerCoug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

As for Obama being a senator, so what? It's legislative experience. Palin may have been governor for a sparsely populated state like Alaska, but she gained more executive experience in her short time than Obama has ever had in his life.

Try again.

So true. For example, Lincoln only had a stint in the Illinois State Legislature and two years in the House of Representatives, and we all know what a crappy executive he turned out to be.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MudphudCoug

So true. For example, Lincoln only had a stint in the Illinois State Legislature and two years in the House of Representatives, and we all know what a crappy executive he turned out to be.

There is a rule to every exception. And as much as I think Lincoln did a fantastic job, I'd guess the southern states would disagree that he was good.

And Obama will never be mentioned in the same breath as Lincoln, should he be elected, as Lincoln was a statesman, not a politician.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

There is a rule to every exception. And as much as I think Lincoln did a fantastic job, I'd guess the southern states would disagree that he was good.

I'm sure Hirohito wasn't a big fan of Truman either.