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Jeff Lebowski · 04-14-2006, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Philmont is a 2 week high adventure thing in New Mexico.

Wow. Is this already a done deal? If that represents your entire vacation time for your job, I wouldn't do it. That's too much of a sacrifice for your family. But that's just me. Good luck with that one.

creekster · 04-14-2006, 06:02 AM

There is also a good reason not to pay for it all, and Steel referred to it. Church programs should be run uniformly and all should be able top arpticiapte or accept callings. Allowing or requiring (depneding on perspective) leaders to absorb costs leads to dispairites in treatment within stakes and wards and is very much counter to any effort to unify the youth and the wards, IMO. Use the budget and lkittle else.

bluegoose · 04-14-2006, 03:30 PM

I agree with what has been said about not paying out of pocket. 1-2 weeks of lost/vacation wages to go to scout camp is more than enough sacrifice for any leader. Throw in all the other stuff that is not reimbursed, such as gas and mileage and it could become very pricey. imo, if someone doesn't get reimbursed, they are also doing a disservice to future leaders, as the ward won't have an accurate picture of how much is actually required to run the program, possibly underbudgeting in the following year.

Does serving as a scout leader make you exempt from contributing to Friends of Scouting?

danimal · 04-14-2006, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

the part that is going to kill me is using an entire year's vacation for one scouting trip.

Maybe I will bail out.

NO way in hell I would spend all my vacation on scout camp. Now that I think about it though, you'd probably have to pay me to go to scout camp.

Archaea · 04-14-2006, 09:14 PM

I wonder if I've never been considered for scouting cuz I never donated to Friends of Scouting.

Hmm.

Two weeks of hell at my expense? No thanks.

bluegoose · 04-14-2006, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Philmont is a 2 week high adventure thing in New Mexico.

Philmont is a great camp, if you have the time and the $$. Unfortunately, it is also next to impossible to split up the week(s) if you have multiple available leaders. As I understand it, Part of the camp is spent on a high country backpacking trip where the troop would be unavailable to do a leader swap.

We had a court of honor last week for one of our older boys who recently returned from AF basic training. He said that the highlight of his entire scouting career was without question Philmont.

MikeWaters · 04-15-2006, 01:33 AM

I did Philmont when I was 14. It was great.

I'm just not sure I want to fork over the time.

04-14-2006, 06:02 AM	#12
creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	There is also a good reason not to pay for it all, and Steel referred to it. Church programs should be run uniformly and all should be able top arpticiapte or accept callings. Allowing or requiring (depneding on perspective) leaders to absorb costs leads to dispairites in treatment within stakes and wards and is very much counter to any effort to unify the youth and the wards, IMO. Use the budget and lkittle else. __________________ Sorry for th e tpyos.

04-14-2006, 09:14 PM	#15
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	I wonder if I've never been considered for scouting cuz I never donated to Friends of Scouting. Hmm. Two weeks of hell at my expense? No thanks. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

04-14-2006, 03:30 PM	#13
bluegoose Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,919	I agree with what has been said about not paying out of pocket. 1-2 weeks of lost/vacation wages to go to scout camp is more than enough sacrifice for any leader. Throw in all the other stuff that is not reimbursed, such as gas and mileage and it could become very pricey. imo, if someone doesn't get reimbursed, they are also doing a disservice to future leaders, as the ward won't have an accurate picture of how much is actually required to run the program, possibly underbudgeting in the following year. Does serving as a scout leader make you exempt from contributing to Friends of Scouting?

04-15-2006, 01:33 AM	#17
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I did Philmont when I was 14. It was great. I'm just not sure I want to fork over the time.