02-08-2007, 04:12 PM | #121 |
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SIEQ, do you think males value "looks" more than females do, when it comes to choosing a mate?
I would argue yes. I think what you are getting at is that this may be more culturally determined than biologically determined. Or maybe you argue no on the first question. |
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However, sometimes cultural conditioning can be so prevalent as to confuse the roll of biology versus culture.
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OTH, that any women find it enjoyable seems to indicate it's not entirely genetic, don't you think?
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I'm getting at that while their are both cultural and biological factors at play, the cultural ones punish women in most contexts. (not, though, in all. Consider how two women can dance together or fall asleep together and no one immediately thinks they're lesbians).
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Porn has long been marked as masculine and has catered to masculine tastes. I would even argue that it's current form may privelige male sexuality. It still has a strong cultural stigma, and an additional one for women. The fact that the number of women who view it has gone up astronomically in recent years suggests that the additional cultural stigma women experience may be waning. This could be an emergence of the greater acceptance of a female gaze (and by females too), or an intensification of their experience in the male gaze.
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I don't see the cultural training as being that overwhelming to overcome genetics in the case of porn habits between men and women. Also there are plenty of genetic differences in men and women that would support the idea that porn is more attractive to men, i.e. orgasm, mechanics of masturbation, etc. |
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I just wanted to add my favorite quote on porn. From the office.
The boss (who loves porn) is trying to demonstrate the evils of porn in the office by searching google for porn: Boss: Now look at this - "Dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs." Now you do not punish a girl, Dutch or otherwise, for having big boobs. Gareth: No...If anything they should be rewarded. Boss: Yes because women should be equal. Gareth: Yes they're equal. Last edited by BarbaraGordon; 02-08-2007 at 06:11 PM. |
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Though it appears we already have many experts here on the subject.
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