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Archaea · 12-04-2005, 10:11 PM

with the wife, we finished the Vegas marathon, and found it quite enjoyable.

For you competitors out there, sometimes it's nice not to race, not to be competitive but to do it together.

realtall · 12-05-2005, 01:19 AM

That is a 'nice jog,' LOL. Good job and I'm glad that you had a nice time.

FarrahWaters · 12-05-2005, 03:00 PM

Glad you were able to put aside your competitiveness-- that's something it would be hard for Mike to do.

Running a marathon is something I've been considering doing on and off for awhile. Did you and your wife train very much for it?

Archaea · 12-05-2005, 03:14 PM

My wife has completed 10 marathons, three this year.

She actually trained a friend who fell behind. We went very slowly for us, slower than 9 minute miles which is crawling. Nonetheless, we were able to enjoy the sites and sounds, while my wife fought through her injuries. It was fun, the first running race we've ever done. Some day, I hope to pull her through to a fast time. She is very pleasant during running, talking, laughing with every one, thanking the volunteers, making others happy along the way. Neither one of us even perspired. So it was successful in that regard.

However, we followed the new Runner's World theory of three days per week, one tempo (at 10K pace), one speed work day on the track, and one long day. Additionally, we train for triathlons, with four bike days and three swimming days. So aerobically, we devote at least two hours per day. She also does yoga and weights, with me doing karate and miscellaneous other activities.

Based on Mike's representations, you would do fine. The key is preparation, staying within yourself, nutrition and just having fun. The body naturally contains enough glycogen to carry you 16 to 18 miles; you need to train to go beyond that. At about 18, you will begin to feel lactic acid build up. However, if you're mentally aware, you just joke about your pain and push through.

When racing, if you deplete it too far, and your engine goes to empty, you just float in. Sometimes it's necessary to push to "bonking", just to push your limits. Mike can tell you about that, as cyclists often bonk until their fitness arrives.

bluegoose · 12-05-2005, 06:14 PM

I don''t know how much slower than normal 9:00 pace is for you, but how did your body feel afterward?

I know for me, from an orthopedic standpoint, slower pacing over a prolonged period is actually harder on my body than running at a slightly faster, more "natural" pace. It changes my gait just enough to cause some different muscle recruitment patterns, primarily in the hip. I've never even approached marathon distance, so I was curious how your body feels a day or two later.

Congrats on the run. I've done centuries on the bike and a few sprint distance triathlons, but a marathon still presents a huge mental barrier for me that I would someday like to overcome.

Archaea · 12-05-2005, 06:34 PM

and both of us commented how surprising that was.

Her hip hurts her, but that's related to her injuries.

I just have some lactic acid in the thighs which will be gone by tomorrow.

My normal pace for long distance is about 8 or slightly thereunder. It's weird but 6:30 is my 10K pace but it drops off significantly for the half marathon.

Every time I tried to stride normally, I would lose the group so I had to return to the group.

realtall · 12-06-2005, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaea

We went very slowly for us, slower than 9 minute miles which is crawling.

Ok, then, we won't discuss the pace that I ended up with after I ran my first marathon(the Ft. Worth Marathon) in Feb

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Actually, my pace was ok until my right knee started to give out around mile 21. Tendonitis, I think. I pushed through and finished anyways.

MikeWaters · 12-06-2005, 12:48 AM

Hey Arch, you and your wife should start getting exercise in other more discrete ways!

il Padrino Ute · 12-06-2005, 01:48 AM

26 miles should be driven, not run.

If I ever decided to run a marathon, I'd prefer the Rosie Ruiz method.

Actually, running is too hard on my knees. I've had the right know scoped 7 times and the left knee scoped 5 times - all of them during my baseball days at Marist.

I understand cycling isn't as tough as running which is why I'm planning on that activity to get in shape.

Archaea · 12-06-2005, 02:00 AM

folks, as I applaud anybody who makes the effort to exercise.

My times are slow to guys really serious about exercise, so it's all relative. In short, unless you earn a living doing it, we're all slow compared to somebody.

RealTall, you should consider yourself doing well.

12-04-2005, 10:11 PM	#1
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Just had a nice jog with the wife, we finished the Vegas marathon, and found it quite enjoyable. For you competitors out there, sometimes it's nice not to race, not to be competitive but to do it together. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

12-05-2005, 03:14 PM	#4
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	We train for fitness constantly My wife has completed 10 marathons, three this year. She actually trained a friend who fell behind. We went very slowly for us, slower than 9 minute miles which is crawling. Nonetheless, we were able to enjoy the sites and sounds, while my wife fought through her injuries. It was fun, the first running race we've ever done. Some day, I hope to pull her through to a fast time. She is very pleasant during running, talking, laughing with every one, thanking the volunteers, making others happy along the way. Neither one of us even perspired. So it was successful in that regard. However, we followed the new Runner's World theory of three days per week, one tempo (at 10K pace), one speed work day on the track, and one long day. Additionally, we train for triathlons, with four bike days and three swimming days. So aerobically, we devote at least two hours per day. She also does yoga and weights, with me doing karate and miscellaneous other activities. Based on Mike's representations, you would do fine. The key is preparation, staying within yourself, nutrition and just having fun. The body naturally contains enough glycogen to carry you 16 to 18 miles; you need to train to go beyond that. At about 18, you will begin to feel lactic acid build up. However, if you're mentally aware, you just joke about your pain and push through. When racing, if you deplete it too far, and your engine goes to empty, you just float in. Sometimes it's necessary to push to "bonking", just to push your limits. Mike can tell you about that, as cyclists often bonk until their fitness arrives. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

12-05-2005, 06:34 PM	#6
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	my feet did hurt and both of us commented how surprising that was. Her hip hurts her, but that's related to her injuries. I just have some lactic acid in the thighs which will be gone by tomorrow. My normal pace for long distance is about 8 or slightly thereunder. It's weird but 6:30 is my 10K pace but it drops off significantly for the half marathon. Every time I tried to stride normally, I would lose the group so I had to return to the group. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

12-06-2005, 01:48 AM	#9
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	Ummm, guys..... 26 miles should be driven, not run. If I ever decided to run a marathon, I'd prefer the Rosie Ruiz method. Actually, running is too hard on my knees. I've had the right know scoped 7 times and the left knee scoped 5 times - all of them during my baseball days at Marist. I understand cycling isn't as tough as running which is why I'm planning on that activity to get in shape. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

12-06-2005, 02:00 AM	#10
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Take no offense folks, as I applaud anybody who makes the effort to exercise. My times are slow to guys really serious about exercise, so it's all relative. In short, unless you earn a living doing it, we're all slow compared to somebody. RealTall, you should consider yourself doing well. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

12-05-2005, 01:19 AM	#2
realtall Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Krum, TX Posts: 891	That is a 'nice jog,' LOL. Good job and I'm glad that you had a nice time.

12-05-2005, 03:00 PM	#3
FarrahWaters Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,122	Glad you were able to put aside your competitiveness-- that's something it would be hard for Mike to do. Running a marathon is something I've been considering doing on and off for awhile. Did you and your wife train very much for it?

12-05-2005, 06:14 PM	#5
bluegoose Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,919	I don''t know how much slower than normal 9:00 pace is for you, but how did your body feel afterward? I know for me, from an orthopedic standpoint, slower pacing over a prolonged period is actually harder on my body than running at a slightly faster, more "natural" pace. It changes my gait just enough to cause some different muscle recruitment patterns, primarily in the hip. I've never even approached marathon distance, so I was curious how your body feels a day or two later. Congrats on the run. I've done centuries on the bike and a few sprint distance triathlons, but a marathon still presents a huge mental barrier for me that I would someday like to overcome.

12-06-2005, 12:48 AM	#8
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Hey Arch, you and your wife should start getting exercise in other more discrete ways!