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2. That's not what he's doing. He started this act with the "58K fans booed ME, MY first game". He's playing the martyr. It's not about protecting his players. I just think it's ugly, lacks confidence, lacks vision, and creates emnity between himself and fan base for no reason. 3. It does strike close to home. I take it personally. I was in that crowd of 58K fans (though I didn't boo). I'm sure Bronco would be offended by my Jay Santos internet persona. He might even ban me from the stadium. But I'm a good fan--in fact I don't even boo. I might have gone "arghh" when Reed got whistled for the penalty. I do it to my own kids when they show me a report card I don't like. It's OK. Here's the bottom line. He's cracking on that crowd of 58K fans in front of a fireside packed to the back of die hard BYU fans. He's doing it like it's a family gathering and it's safe to crack on his enemies because he's among true friends. What he needs to get is that every one of those people at the fireside helping him living the dream, giving him a voice, giving his wife a voice are the exact ones that were booing that day. You can't turn on and off passion in a program. If it's there, there's going to be lots of money and support and good times and accompanying boos and nasty internet posts. If it's not there, you don't have boos or nasty internet posts, but you don't have 65K at a stadium or packed houses for firesides or $$ to enable you to have family Hawaii surf vacations. Last edited by jay santos; 11-07-2007 at 04:07 PM. |
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11-07-2007, 04:15 PM
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I think I can believe he is a great coach for BYU and maybe would be elsewhere without giving up my right to think sometimes he is dead wrong. Control types want to control everything. Sometimes they just don't get what they want. It is one reason why I think Bronco fits better in the BYU environmnet than he might otherwise. He works for an organizaiont that is into control. |
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11-07-2007, 04:28 PM
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11-07-2007, 04:33 PM
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The guy with New England, Parcels, Urban. Some places allow more control than others though. You would have to admit BYU is far more interested in controlling students than say UCLA. |
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11-07-2007, 04:38 PM
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And anyway, if you didn't boo, then Bronco wasn't talking to you. So what have you got your shorts in a wad about?
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11-07-2007, 04:44 PM
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Bronco has made criticisms of players, I guess he has that right because he is the coach?? Booing our own players would not be my choice of expressing a complaint, however I wouldn't call someone who did an idiot. Now if the team wins 35-16 and someone calls into the show complaining the game wasn't exciting enough, I would say that callers comments were idiotic. I might even boo the caller. |
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11-07-2007, 04:48 PM
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11-07-2007, 04:54 PM
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11-07-2007, 05:09 PM
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There are just some in our culture who think the have the right standards for all of us and they back it up with "I do what the Prophet does". The Prophet doesn't boo, we don't boo. The Prophet doesn't like father and sons outings, we don't, oh wait that one doesn't work. |
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11-07-2007, 05:11 PM
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This conversation reminds me of a Seinfeld episode.
JERRY: Hey, what's the deal? What was goin' on there? I invite you down here, I have an important show, and she heckles me?! KRAMER: Look, she didn't mean anything. JERRY: Well, what is the matter with her? Is she crazy?! KRAMER: She's just being enthusiastic, that's all! <Toby enters.> JERRY: Hey! What is wrong with you?! TOBY: Me? Nothing's wrong with me. JERRY: You boo me?! You hiss?! You didn't stop blathering throughout the whole set! TOBY: Oh, come on! I thought you're a pro! That's part of the show. JERRY: No! Not part of the show! Booing and hissing are not part of the show! You boo puppets! You hiss villains in silent movies! TOBY: Well, that's the way I express myself. How are you gonna make it in this business if you can't take it? JERRY: Oh, I can take it. ----- Later Jerry boos her in her office. Heh. It would kinda fun to see how some of the boo-birds would react to getting booed at their jobs by a few thousand people standing over their shoulder.
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