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Old 11-19-2007, 06:35 PM   #11
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CG has taught me that there actually is a rivalry among some people. To me it's just another game.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:00 PM   #12
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CG has taught me that there actually is a rivalry among some people. To me it's just another game.
The problem is that constitutionally you'd be a lot happier rooting against BYU. You know better than anyone what an obnoxious place it is. So you block out the Rivalry, being conflicted and pained as you are.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:02 PM   #13
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CG has taught me that there actually is a rivalry among some people. To me it's just another game.
Yes, growing up outside of Utah this was never a game I cared about either.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:49 PM   #14
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CG has taught me that there actually is a rivalry among some people. To me it's just another game.
You are either

a) joking/trolling, or

b) admitting that in spite of it all, you are at best a marginal BYU fan.

Seriously, how could you possibly follow a team this closely and not have any insight/enthusiasm regarding the main rivalry? That's like someone claiming to be an Aggie fan, but looking at the game vs. Texas as "no big deal". Boggles the mind.
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is BYU vs. Utah even considered one of the top 20 most important rivalry games in the country?

A rivalry game for BYU in Utah in the MWC is, as is quoted in the best movie ever, "the sideshow of a sideshow".
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:03 PM   #16
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You are either

a) joking/trolling, or

b) admitting that in spite of it all, you are at best a marginal BYU fan.

Seriously, how could you possibly follow a team this closely and not have any insight/enthusiasm regarding the main rivalry? That's like someone claiming to be an Aggie fan, but looking at the game vs. Texas as "no big deal". Boggles the mind.

I grew up in California and was a die hard BYU fan. Holiday Bowl every year, saturday afternoon games either at the Stake Center or picking up KSL over some sideband radio my old man bought. Never honestly knew about a rivalry with Utah. True there wasn't much of a rivalry then but I knew nobody who was a Ute fan.

In 1994 my hometeaching comp was a short fat kid from Viewmont High who was a diehard Ute fan. My first exposure to rivalry smack was on the LDS Institute web board for the West Point Branch. Still I was a few months removed from my mission and really had yet to recapture that competitive spirit and love of intercollegiate sports. 1996 when both Army and BYU had great years brought back all those memories and I was once again hooked. But still even while realizing that Utah had become a decent program, it was not really a rivalry as I knew no Ute fans and thought the 3 year run of wins was a fluke and that '96 set order back to the Universe.

Fast forward to 1998, I always loved Rick Majerus. Loved how he ran his program and loved the toughnosed style of play. In 1998 Utah made their great run to the NC game. I loved it. I rooted for the Utes and even bought myself a Ute hat. Clearly, I would still love for BYU hoops to beat them, but I liked their style of play and loved Big Rick.

I continue to follow BYU from a far in Louisiana until 2000 - when I got my first dial up internet account. Then I discovered these boards. Then I discovered not only a rivalry, but the fact that it makes people act like total assholes. While I still love Majerus it became impossible for me to continue to like Utah anything once I discovered how much many of them hated, and I mean HATED, all things BYU. So yes in time I developed my own distaste for Utenation as a consequence.

However, without the internet I don't know how much I would understand the nature of the rivalry. Without living in Utah I have had so little exposure until I found the addiction of sports message boards on the world wide web.

PS I still have the hat if a Ute wants it.
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is BYU vs. Utah even considered one of the top 20 most important rivalry games in the country?

A rivalry game for BYU in Utah in the MWC is, as is quoted in the best movie ever, "the sideshow of a sideshow".
This is the only rivalry that is literally a metaphor for good and bad, the Shire vs. Mordor, etc.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:06 PM   #18
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This is the only rivalry that is literally a metaphor for good and bad, the Shire vs. Mordor, etc.
So are you Sauron or one of his minions?

We know 71 plays Gandalf, and Goat plays Frodo.
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This is the only rivalry that is literally a metaphor for good and bad, the Shire vs. Mordor, etc.
It's literally a metaphor, is it? All those other rivalries are just metaphors for metaphors I suppose.
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is BYU vs. Utah even considered one of the top 20 most important rivalry games in the country?

A rivalry game for BYU in Utah in the MWC is, as is quoted in the best movie ever, "the sideshow of a sideshow".
Aha... Since BYU is in a piss-poor conference, the very concept of getting up for such a rivalry game offends your sense of dignity. Gotcha.

You know, Mike, it's quite fascinating to see a mental health professional with such a case of self-loathing.
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