If BYU was undefeated this year would they play in the MNC game?

[DrumNFeather]

Originally Posted by mpfunk

This post got me thinking. I think it is crazy to believe that any non-BcS team would ever get a shot at the MNC game. Sorry the system is designed to cheap the non-BcS out and even if you have no undefeated BcS teams, it is still going to be two BcS teams.

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I think you could ask the same question about the Utes (and probably get the same answer).

The only reason things *might* be different (assuming everything else had played out the way it did) is that the OSU & UCLA wins early would've probably put the Utes in the top 25 going into a national TV game with Louisville...and a 8-2 BYU team at the end of the season.

Fun to speculate about, that's for sure.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by DrumNFeather

I think you could ask the same question about the Utes (and probably get the same answer).

The only reason things *might* be different (assuming everything else had played out the way it did) is that the OSU & UCLA wins early would've probably put the Utes in the top 25 going into a national TV game with Louisville...and a 8-2 BYU team at the end of the season.

Fun to speculate about, that's for sure.

I think an undefeated Utah would have been in for sure. They would have had three highly publicized wins over BCS teams and then a win against a ranked BYU in a rivalry game. That would put you in the MNC game.

[FMCoug]

I tried this in the Colley Rankings hypothetical thing. I made the UCLA and Tulsa games wins and it had us at #1. That doesn't necessarily mean the BCS rankings would work out that way as that's only one of the computer polls but I thought that was interesting.

I think an undefeated BYU would be in this year over 1 loss Mizzou/WVU calibre teams. If you were talking a 1-loss LSU, USC, Florida, etc. probably not.

This year is similar to 1984 in that respect.

[MikeWaters]

you all are smoking dope.

[FMCoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

you all are smoking dope.

I would have thought the same if I hadn't done the hypothetical thing with the Colley poll.

[DrumNFeather]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

you all are smoking dope.

It dulls the pain.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by FMCoug

I would have thought the same if I hadn't done the hypothetical thing with the Colley poll.

BYU would be 10 places higher than Hawaii? I don't think so. In a year with a down UCLA, an ignored Tulsa, a down TCU, a Utah team that lost to UNLV...

[FMCoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

BYU would be 10 places higher than Hawaii? I don't think so. In a year with a down UCLA, an ignored Tulsa, a down TCU, a Utah team that lost to UNLV...

SOS matters. While BYU's may not be stellar, it's a hell of a lot better than Hawaii's. I'm too lazy to look it up but it seems like BYU's was in th 60's or so. Hawaii was like 120 or some insane number like that.

Also, I think my 1984 comparison is valid. Is BYU's scheule this year weaker than it was in 1984?

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

BYU would be 10 places higher than Hawaii? I don't think so. In a year with a down UCLA, an ignored Tulsa, a down TCU, a Utah team that lost to UNLV...

I think you are neglecting the effect of the previous season's record and the early buzz. BYU would have hit the top 25 after the UCLA game. Hitting it that early with the turnover the top 25 has had would make all the difference.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by K-dog

I think you are neglecting the effect of the previous season's record and the early buzz. BYU would have hit the top 25 after the UCLA game. Hitting it that early with the turnover the top 25 has had would make all the difference.

I agree