Goatnapper ... do you seriously believe that crap you were spewing on ufans earlier?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Yes I disagree... I think you give him way to much credit. If he would have had the testicular fortitude to buck the system he wouldn't have gone in the first place. If he had this rebel streak why did he end up at byu?

Be honest, He's a good football player because he has honed his skills and a pretty good athlete. if he was really fighting the man he would have gone back to ASU and honored his commitment there.

He quit the school he committed to. He quit the mission he committed to.

Not enough data points to make a conclusion that he's a quitter and unloyal.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Yes I disagree... I think you give him way to much credit. If he would have had the testicular fortitude to buck the system he wouldn't have gone in the first place. If he had this rebel streak why did he end up at byu?

Be honest, He's a good football player because he has honed his skills and a pretty good athlete. if he was really fighting the man he would have gone back to ASU and honored his commitment there.

Ahh...good to know that the Yewt "fan" mentality is now here on CG.

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Ahh...good to know that the Yewt "fan" mentality is now here on CG.

Like you I call bullshit when I see it

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by ilmf

I haven't said anything about the pressure that comes from family (immediate or extended) who served missions, only talking about the Mormon church's expectation. Give me a break if you're trying to sell me that it isn't there (unless you're a new convert).

Is this now a discussion about how well the expectation/pressure works? It worked on me.

You have to get used to Waters. He created this great site primarily because the intellect level on CB couldn't seperate the intelligent things he says from all the bull shit.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Yes I disagree... I think you give him way to much credit. If he would have had the testicular fortitude to buck the system he wouldn't have gone in the first place. If he had this rebel streak why did he end up at byu?

Be honest, He's a good football player because he has honed his skills and a pretty good athlete. if he was really fighting the man he would have gone back to ASU and honored his commitment there.

Gee, what horse crap. Someone gets into a situation and finds out it isn't right for them but because some Ute fans will call him a quitter, he ought to stick around.

You sound like the same folks who cried over Olson leaving. So if some guy gets a job and finds out he can do better elsewhere, he should stick around so no one will call him a quitter.

Some of the stupidest rival smack I have ever heard. Proof is that Waters jumped on the bandwagon.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

He quit the school he committed to. He quit the mission he committed to.

Not enough data points to make a conclusion that he's a quitter and unloyal.

and you quit Cougarboard.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by BYU71

and you quit Cougarboard.

CB quit me when Jefe banned me from portions of his site.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

CB quit me when Jefe banned me from portions of his site.

How is that any different than a kid seeing he is going to be bannished to being a back up.

You quit, I back you up in your decision. I quit, but went crawling back. I admire and respect you more for being a quitter.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Like you I call bullshit when I see it

Besides having your head up your ass....what is exactly the bullshit you're smelling?

The problem you're droning on about a kid who decided a mission wasn't for him speaks volumes about you.

You fit the title of Zoot perfectly.

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Besides having your head up your ass....what is exactly the bullshit you're smelling?

The problem you're droning on about a kid who decided a mission wasn't for him speaks volumes about you.

You fit the title of Zoot perfectly.

One thread about what another poster said is droning on?

I disagree with GN assumption that because he Max Hall quit on his mission he is better qb.