There is a NCAA rule against "throwing the ball high in the air"

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar

Although there were a few other errors in your narrative, this one pleased me the most, as it serves as a model of most of your rips against BYU and the Church. You begin with your conclusion (in this case, "BM is an asshole"), then work back in search of supporting facts. Both of the plays were reviewed at the behest of the refs, not Bronco. I don't recall BYU being charged with a timeout with the Unga call (although who could have blamed any coach for challening a fumble that, give or take six inches, made the difference between a TD and turnover?), and neither the stadium announcer, the official box score, nor any of the Seattle papers mentioned anything about a coach's challenge. In view of this, who is the asshole?

But you were correct about it being an extremely nice day. My son and I enjoyed the game; the stadium was a fun place to watch a game. We were low on the sideline next to the endzone with an unobstructed view of Locker's celebration. I've never felt more humiliated than by his egregiously offensive display of poor sportsmanship and taunting. Actually, I thought he was a superb athlete and didn't think he did anything wrong at all. At the time, I assumed a Dawg player has said something offensive, although that would have been surprising because I didn't see any nastiness from either side throughout the game. It was an unfortunate call. But BYU outstatted UW in every offensive and defensive category, and deserved to win.

Downtown Seattle last evening was gorgeous. We had a nice meal at Etta's (?), and I returned to the Space Needle for the first time since 1962 when I was 9 years old. Didn't notice any changes, other than a major price increase. Assholes.

Etta's is a very stellar place. I ran into Jeff Bezos there one morning the day after I settled a big case against Amazon where he participated in the mediation. He was trying to hide behind a newspaper as he ate his brunch, but I coudn't resist walking over and saying hello and shaking his hand. Nice fellow. But I'm sure Waters would have been disgusted.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

No, you can solve for it.

He threw the ball 16 ft above his head. I assumed he is six feet tall, so it went a total of 22 ft above the ground.

In case you are interested, here is how I did it:

The ball is going to start with some unknown velocity (v), go up in the air in a parabolic arc and then come back to the ground. As it passes the point from which he threw it (6 ft) on the way down it will be traveling with the same velocity (v) it started with but in the opposite direction. There are two parts to the path:

part a (up and down to his head):
height = ya
time = ta

part b (from his head to the ground):
height = yb = 6
time = tb

Now we can set up some equations:

ya = v^2/(2*g)
(g= gravitational constant = 32.2 ft/sec^2)
yb = 6 = v*tb + (1/2)*g*tb^2
ta + tb = 2.36
ta = (2*v)/g

I threw these in a spreadsheet and solved for v using the Goal Seek function. Final values:

v: 31.9 ft/s
ta: 1.98 s
tb: 0.38 s
ya: 15.8 ft

Took me about ten minutes to solve. Yes, I am a geek and proud of it.

Big guy, now show us the PAT would have been blocked regardless.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Big guy, now show us the PAT would have been blocked regardless.

No equations needed there. Just common sense.

But seriously, give me the typical angle of trajectory vs. location on the field and I could do that easily.

[ute4ever]

BTW, Jake Locker is 6'3" not 6'0".

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

No equations needed there. Just common sense.

But seriously, give me the typical angle of trajectory vs. location on the field and I could do that easily.

Simple - the ball is located on the 10 yard line and the trajectory is up.

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Simple - the ball is located on the 10 yard line and the trajectory is up.

Boo hoo?

[ute4ever]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

Boo hoo?

Sincerely,
The AP voters

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Simple - the ball is located on the 10 yard line and the trajectory is up.

I could do a quick analysis with just one fact: Distance from point of kick to where it was blocked.

Anyone see a replay where that could be estimated?

TIA

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

Boo hoo?

???

I was just providing Jeff with the necessary info for him to come up with a formula.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Simple - the ball is located on the 10 yard line and the trajectory is up.

You should clue in Louis Sakoda. His first PAT attempt against Michigan was blocked.