what will BYU be ranked in the polls if it wins out?

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

2. TCU and Utah need to win out (or at least one of them needs to and the other needs to have one loss to OU at the most).

Are you forgetting that they have to play each other? Or am I misunderstanding you here?

[Coach McGuirk]

Originally Posted by Brian

Sure, if they have some quality wins. But, that possibility doesn't exist with your schedule.

And it never will in the mwc.

I think most years you would be right, but if TCU somehow beat OU (hey I was saying the same thing last night about UNLV ASU) and Utah wins out. That showdown would be between to highly ranked undefeated teams with, if not quality wins, high profile wins. I think that it is possible, but not likely.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by Brian

Maybe a chance out to 8 decimal places, but not realistically.

Maybe if everyone in the SEC has 4 losses.
But then we are back to 8 decimal places.

You're overstating the bias. The human voters have the ability to determine the final standings. That's what we saw happen last year.

If the SEC teams have two losses and BYU is undefeated with wins over two Pac-10 teams and Utah, BYU will make the championship game.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk

I think most years you would be right, but if TCU somehow beat OU (hey I was saying the same thing last night about UNLV ASU) and Utah wins out. That showdown would be between to highly ranked undefeated teams with, if not quality wins, high profile wins. I think that it is possible, but not likely.

The rest of the country doesn't see it that way. They see utah, byu and tcu as good teams in a bad conference, unlv as a fluke. Even highly ranked, they are not seen as "really good", really good enough to play for the NC.
Beating Mississippi St by 21 is a lot different than beating wyoming by 21. It just is. And voters know it. Playing relatively bad teams week in and week out is not going to fool anyone.

And no, I didn't think utah should have played for the NC in 05. I don't think they were the 2nd best team in the nation. And neither did anyone else.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

You're overstating the bias. The human voters have the ability to determine the final standings. That's what we saw happen last year.

If the SEC teams have two losses and BYU is undefeated with wins over two Pac-10 teams and Utah, BYU will make the championship game.

at the very least, it will create the biggest controversy in BCS history.

I think Utah's experience would also favor BYU. That is, with UM and Alex Smith.

However, I think that all the forces in the world would align against BYU and prevent it if at all possible.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Brian

The rest of the country doesn't see it that way. They see utah, byu and tcu as good teams in a bad conference, unlv as a fluke. Even highly ranked, they are not seen as "really good", really good enough to play for the NC.
Beating Mississippi St by 21 is a lot different than beating wyoming by 21. It just is. And voters know it. Playing relatively bad teams week in and week out is not going to fool anyone.

And no, I didn't think utah should have played for the NC in 05. I don't think they were the 2nd best team in the nation. And neither did anyone else.

STFU Brian. Take your sh** back to where you came from.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

You're overstating the bias. The human voters have the ability to determine the final standings. That's what we saw happen last year.

If the SEC teams have two losses and BYU is undefeated with wins over two Pac-10 teams and Utah, BYU will make the championship game.

Ok, maybe it's 6 decimal places.


You live outside the bubble, you know how the mwc is perceived. Two wins over two apparently poor Pac-10 teams and running the table in a mediocre conference is not going to fool anyone.

And there is fixing to do, nobody is going to forget the penalty on UW.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

However, I think that all the forces in the world would align against BYU and prevent it if at all possible.

No way. I mean, I understand a little persecution complex is justified, but you guys are taking this way too far.

Either way, just win. It'll take care of itself if you just keep winning.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

No way. I mean, I understand a little persecution complex is justified, but you guys are taking this way too far.

Either way, just win. It'll take care of itself if you just keep winning.

We MWC folks aren't taking it too far. Remember, the BCS exists in part because of BYU's 1984 season. The big boys hated that somebody else won it.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

at the very least, it will create the biggest controversy in BCS history.

I think Utah's experience would also favor BYU. That is, with UM and Alex Smith.

However, I think that all the forces in the world would align against BYU and prevent it if at all possible.

Why would an undefeated BYU being left out of the championship game create a bigger controversy than an undefeated Auburn being left out? Nobody is going to get up in arms about a non-BCS team getting the shaft.