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BlueK · 09-26-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Good point. The past 3 weeks proves your point.

All conferences are equal. I am now convinced.

Go back since the MWC inception. What is BYU's record against BCS schools? Is it a winning margin? i dont know off the top of my head....i bet we dominate...

And I never said every conference is equal.

Indy Coug · 09-26-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Good point. The past 3 weeks proves your point.

All conferences are equal. I am now convinced.

Go back since the MWC inception. What is BYU's record against BCS schools? Is it a winning margin? i dont know off the top of my head....i bet we dominate...

I need to update my database, but covering 1999 through 2006, the MWC is 57-106 versus BCS schools.

MikeWaters · 09-26-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I need to update my database, but covering 1999 through 2006, the MWC is 57-106 versus BCS schools.

what percent are road games?

Indy Coug · 09-26-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

This year is different. MWC has 3 teams better than any team in the Pac 10.

Bullcrap. No one in our conference is better than USC. One game doth not superiority make. Unfortunately, football season just isn't long enough to prove that.

MikeWaters · 09-26-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Bullcrap. No one in our conference is better than USC. One game doth not superiority make. Unfortunately, football season just isn't long enough to prove that.

Utah will dominate OSU.

There is no doubt in my mind that USC could lose to BYU, TCU, Utah.

Indy Coug · 09-26-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

There is no doubt in my mind that USC could lose to BYU, TCU, Utah.

Could lose one game? Sure. Would be expected to win a best of 7 series? No freaking way.

BlueK · 09-26-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Good point. The past 3 weeks proves your point.

All conferences are equal. I am now convinced.

Go back since the MWC inception. What is BYU's record against BCS schools? Is it a winning margin? i dont know off the top of my head....i bet we dominate...

BYU is 13-13 against BCS teams since 1999. And that includes the Crowton years. Is that great? No. But few BCS teams would have a much better than .500 record in non-conference games agasinst other BCS teams. That's just basic statistics because in every such game there has to be a winner and a loser. We're in the middle of the pack at worst in those conferences over the last 10 years. Since Bronco the record is better than that. Conference games are a totally different animal. Familiarity, rivalry and other factors all play into it, and that increase parity within conferences. Baylor might give a team like Texas a much better game than they would play against USC. USC probably wouldn't have lost to OSU if they were in different conferences, and BYU would also probably occasionally beat a great team if we were in the same conference. I know one thing. On paper BYU is much better than Oregon State, as is Utah, who will most like take the Beavers to the woodshed.

MikeWaters · 09-26-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Could lose one game? Sure. Would be expected to win a best of 7 series? No freaking way.

Apparently everyone forgot that USC is led by an inexperienced QB. For most teams, this would be a problem. But for USC, we were told, Sanchez was amazing and one of the team's strengths.

Red Hat. Green Hat. Yellow Hat. Oops!

Everyone else forgot that OSU is incredibly overrated.

USC will lose another game in the regular season.

BlueK · 09-26-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I need to update my database, but covering 1999 through 2006, the MWC is 57-106 versus BCS schools.

BYU is .500 if my quick look is correct. For the entire MWC, I bet if you looked at the last 5 years the winning percentage is much better. The MWC got off to a bad start, but has gotten a lot better recently, IMO.

MikeWaters · 09-26-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueK

BYU is .500 if my quick look is correct. For the entire MWC, I bet if you looked at the last 5 years the winning percentage is much better. The MWC got off to a bad start, but has gotten a lot better recently, IMO.

It's not been very good before this year. A lot of almost-upsets. And a lot of losses that should have been wins (see BYU).