Pac 10 irrelevant?

[Indy Coug]

Through 2007. the MWC was 66-115 vs BCS teams.

Since becoming a member of the MWC, through 2008, BYU is 13-17 vs BCS teams.

The best record of any BCS team BYU has beaten during that time is 7-5 (Washington 1999). Oregon 2006 and Georgia Tech 2003 were 7-6. Everyone else was 0.500 or worse. BYU has lost to four sub-.500 BCS teams during that period.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Apparently everyone forgot that USC is led by an inexperienced QB. For most teams, this would be a problem. But for USC, we were told, Sanchez was amazing and one of the team's strengths.

Red Hat. Green Hat. Yellow Hat. Oops!

Everyone else forgot that OSU is incredibly overrated.

USC will lose another game in the regular season.

If USC can lose to a mediocre Oregon State team I'm thinking they're probably overrated this year and will likely drop another somewhere along the way.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Through 2007. the MWC was 66-115 vs BCS teams.

Since becoming a member of the MWC, through 2008, BYU is 13-17 vs BCS teams.

what are the percentages for the last 10 years and last 5 years for BYU and the MWC? Is there a trend? Off the top of my head I would guess there has been improvement. And why not throw in 2008 as well, since most of the conference games against the BCS this year have been played.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by BlueK

what are the percentages for the last 10 years and last 5 years for BYU and the MWC? Is there a trend? Off the top of my head I would guess there has been improvement. And why not throw in 2008 as well, since most of the conference games against the BCS this year have been played.

I don't have the 2008 figures handy.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I need to update my database, but covering 1999 through 2006, the MWC is 57-106 versus BCS schools.

Holy crap. That is worse than I thought.

Well, no matter. The MWC has done really well the past 3 weeks, so that should basically counter any data you may provide for us here.

Mid Major is a fictional term! We can compete with these guys!

[Indy Coug]

MWC vs BCS by year

Season  W      L
1999	7	7
2000	5	18
2001	5	17
2002	11	16
2003	9	14
2004	9	15
2005	7	9
2006	4	10
2007	9	9

[Indy Coug]

Of the 9 BCS teams defeated by the MWC in 2007, only Virginia had a winning record.

Season	W/L	Team	Opp	Record	PF	PA
2007	W	AFA	N Dame	3-9-0	41	24
2007	W	BYU	Arizona	5-7-0	20	7
2007	W	BYU	UCLA	6-7-0	17	16
2007	W	UNM	Arizona	5-7-0	29	27
2007	W	TCU	Baylor	3-9-0	27	0
2007	W	TCU	Stanford	4-8-0	38	36
2007	W	Utah	Louisville	6-6-0	44	35
2007	W	Utah	UCLA	6-7-0	44	6
2007	W	Wyoming	Virginia	9-4-0	23	3

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

MWC vs BCS by year

Season  W      L
1999	7	7
2000	5	18
2001	5	17
2002	11	16
2003	9	14
2004	9	15
2005	7	9
2006	4	10
2007	9	9

It's 7-3 this year, by the way. So the trend seems to be upward. .500 in OOC games vs. the BCS is nothing to sneeze at since most of the 6 BCS conferences are right around .500 against each other every year.

[MikeWaters]

If BYU and Utah hadn't beaten UCLA, they would have had a winning record. BEAT DOWN!

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Of the 9 BCS teams defeated by the MWC in 2007, only Virginia had a winning record.

Season	W/L	Team	Opp	Record	PF	PA
2007	W	AFA	N Dame	3-9-0	41	24
2007	W	BYU	Arizona	5-7-0	20	7
2007	W	BYU	UCLA	6-7-0	17	16
2007	W	UNM	Arizona	5-7-0	29	27
2007	W	TCU	Baylor	3-9-0	27	0
2007	W	TCU	Stanford	4-8-0	38	36
2007	W	Utah	Louisville	6-6-0	44	35
2007	W	Utah	UCLA	6-7-0	44	6
2007	W	Wyoming	Virginia	9-4-0	23	3

Not surprising though. Winning teams are harder to beat. You could run the same analysis for BCS leagues and come up with something similar.