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cougjunkie · 10-03-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Can anyone confirm whether junkie really went to the game in his beaver gear?

If you watch David Reeds long kickoff return. They show the Oregon State section right after and you can see me. Oregon State had literally 100+ polys at the game all in one section. Including a few ex-utah players.

TripletDaddy · 10-03-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cougjunkie

If you watch David Reeds long kickoff return. They show the Oregon State section right after and you can see me. Oregon State had literally 100+ polys at the game all in one section. Including a few ex-utah players.

100+ polygamists for Oregon State?

I guess that isnt surprising, since polygamy has always been about supporting the beavers.

UtahDan · 10-03-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cougjunkie

I thought that long history you spoke of was debunked by beating 2 pac-10 teams this year? How about back to back wins over Utah was Utah not good last year?

One thing that I do think will suck for both BYU and UTah is because we have such crappy bowl affiliations an 11-1 team is going to the LV bowl to play 6-6 Arizona or Oregon State.

I don't think it is debunked by beating two poor teams. My point, and I think there is a very long history of this, is that BYU has frequently had teams that could hang 70 points on inferior opponents and then struggle to score 20 points against another good team. I don't think BYU has played anyone so far this year that gives them any idea how know good they are (though of course the signs are very encouraging thus far). That isn't BYU's fault, but the teams BYU has beaten all seem pretty bad at this point. My only point has ever been that before we start getting down on Utah for no blowing the doors off other good teams (but winning), lets see BYU handle a good team.

The problem for BYU is that it would appear that there are only two good teams you will play. I think that AFA and UNLV could be competitive if they show up and don't get down early, but TCU and Utah are the real tests for BYU and every BYU fan knows it.

When it comes down to the end of the year if BYU is undefeated and people are having a serious conversation about BCS bowls and are comparing two loss SEC teams to BYU, it won't be the UCLA win or the Washington win BYU fans will be touting. BYU fans will be saying how good the MWC was this year and that it handled its business agasinst a very good TCU team and a very good Utah team (a Utah team who actually beat some good competition). This is exactly how it will play out.

Surfah · 10-03-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan

I don't think it is debunked by beating two poor teams. My point, and I think there is a very long history of this, is that BYU has frequently had teams that could hang 70 points on inferior opponents and then struggle to score 20 points against another good team. I don't think BYU has played anyone so far this year that gives them any idea how know good they are (though of course the signs are very encouraging thus far). That isn't BYU's fault, but the teams BYU has beaten all seem pretty bad at this point. My only point has ever been that before we start getting down on Utah for no blowing the doors off other good teams (but winning), lets see BYU handle a good team.

The problem for BYU is that it would appear that there are only two good teams you will play. I think that AFA and UNLV could be competitive if they show up and don't get down early, but TCU and Utah are the real tests for BYU and every BYU fan knows it.

When it comes down to the end of the year if BYU is undefeated and people are having a serious conversation about BCS bowls and are comparing two loss SEC teams to BYU, it won't be the UCLA win or the Washington win BYU fans will be touting. BYU fans will be saying how good the MWC was this year and that it handled its business agasinst a very good TCU team and a very good Utah team (a Utah team who actually beat some good competition). This is exactly how it will play out.

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cougjunkie · 10-03-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan

I don't think it is debunked by beating two poor teams. My point, and I think there is a very long history of this, is that BYU has frequently had teams that could hang 70 points on inferior opponents and then struggle to score 20 points against another good team. I don't think BYU has played anyone so far this year that gives them any idea how know good they are (though of course the signs are very encouraging thus far). That isn't BYU's fault, but the teams BYU has beaten all seem pretty bad at this point. My only point has ever been that before we start getting down on Utah for no blowing the doors off other good teams (but winning), lets see BYU handle a good team.

The problem for BYU is that it would appear that there are only two good teams you will play. I think that AFA and UNLV could be competitive if they show up and don't get down early, but TCU and Utah are the real tests for BYU and every BYU fan knows it.

When it comes down to the end of the year if BYU is undefeated and people are having a serious conversation about BCS bowls and are comparing two loss SEC teams to BYU, it won't be the UCLA win or the Washington win BYU fans will be touting. BYU fans will be saying how good the MWC was this year and that it handled its business agasinst a very good TCU team and a very good Utah team (a Utah team who actually beat some good competition). This is exactly how it will play out.

Since Bronco has become head coach can you tell me a game in which BYU has played a crappy team and struggled to score? This is not your mothers Brigham Young Cougars.

MikeWaters · 10-03-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cougjunkie

Since Bronco has become head coach can you tell me a game in which BYU has played a crappy team and struggled to score? This is not your mothers Brigham Young Cougars.

Next year is going to be great. Max Hall the frontrunner for the Heisman. and the Utes going to bat with Louks.

YOhio · 10-03-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfah

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Quit brown nosing UD. It's disgusting.

DrumNFeather · 10-03-2008, 06:10 PM

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Next year is going to be great. Max Hall the frontrunner for the Heisman. and the Utes going to bat with Louks.

Louks can at least run...something BJ isn't really a threat to do...and he'll have some decent talent returning around him...so it might not be all that bad...but that's a long ways away.