BYU hoops busts in the Top 25...

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by K-dog

Personally, I like the new moves and agree that he is developing his confidence. We saw the beginning of all the moves you mentioned last year (except a drop step which I don't agree he has). I think a bigger change than any of the things you have mentioned is TPs recognition of the double team...where it comes from, who is open as a result, and whether to finish his post move or pass out. He is looking much better in this aspect of the game and, as a result, has a number of assists in the past few games. Like Roy Williams said...you can't double team a big man who can pass.

Trent was a perimeter player in high school who outscored everyone because he was the biggest player on the court who was also the best athlete. He did not get to BYU as a basketball player, but came as a pure athlete. He was also a year younger as he graduated from HS early. As he has physically matured and grown comfortable playing under the basket he is demonstrating skills commensurate to his athleticism. I think he will bolt for the NBA after this year if he keeps playing this well, however I think he needs another year at the college level to develop more of a polished perimeter game. I don't think he will be a back to the basket player at the next level.

[SeattleUte]

Goatnapper is right that this BYU basketball team is kind of a fluke in that a bunch of really talented LDS players came through the pipeline at once and for some reason didn't go to schools like UCLA. This happens about once every two or three generations. The last time was the Ainge-Durrant-Kite-Roberts era, the true BYU golden age of basketball (still, except for the one run to the Elite 8 I don't think they won an NCAA game). If you bought stock in BYU basketball back around 1-27 and are still holding it, this year might be a good time to look at unloading it. Buy buy buy Utes; that's a good value right now. That's my tip for the day.

The guy that really needs to prove he can win with his own squad is Rose.

[myboynoah]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Buy buy buy Utes; that's a good value right now. That's my tip for the day.

My guess is that you have plenty to sell.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Goatnapper is right that this BYU basketball team is kind of a fluke in that a bunch of really talented LDS players came through the pipeline at once and for some reason didn't go to schools like UCLA. This happens about once every two or three generations. The last time was the Ainge-Durrant-Kite-Roberts era, the true BYU golden age of basketball (still, except for the one run to the Elite 8 I don't think they won an NCAA game). If you bought stock in BYU basketball back around 1-27 and are still holding it, this year might be a good time to look at unloading it. Buy buy buy Utes; that's a good value right now. That's my tip for the day.

The guy that really needs to prove he can win with his own squad is Rose.

Obviously, BYU has the amazing NCAA record of 11 wins, most trips to NCAAs without a trip to Final Four and many other enviable records to boot.

However, you forgot the one unforgettable victory against SMU with the mighty Shawn Bradley under your favorite Cougar coach Roger Reid.

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Goatnapper is right that this BYU basketball team is kind of a fluke in that a bunch of really talented LDS players came through the pipeline at once and for some reason didn't go to schools like UCLA. This happens about once every two or three generations. The last time was the Ainge-Durrant-Kite-Roberts era, the true BYU golden age of basketball (still, except for the one run to the Elite 8 I don't think they won an NCAA game). If you bought stock in BYU basketball back around 1-27 and are still holding it, this year might be a good time to look at unloading it. Buy buy buy Utes; that's a good value right now. That's my tip for the day.

The guy that really needs to prove he can win with his own squad is Rose.

That is something left for Rose to prove. Your folks need to just prove they can with anybody's squad. Baby steps my friend.

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Obviously, BYU has the amazing NCAA record of 11 wins, most trips to NCAAs without a trip to Final Four and many other enviable records to boot.

However, you forgot the one unforgettable victory against SMU with the mighty Shawn Bradley under your favorite Cougar coach Roger Reid.

Beat SMU with the Reid brothers and Russell Larson. Beat UVA with Shawn Bradley.

[Indy Coug]

BYU was one Ralph Sampson goaltending no-call away from the Final Four.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

BYU was one Ralph Sampson goaltending no-call away from the Final Four.

Atahualpa was Laman's great great great great ....... grandson.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Goatnapper is right that this BYU basketball team is kind of a fluke in that a bunch of really talented LDS players came through the pipeline at once and for some reason didn't go to schools like UCLA. This happens about once every two or three generations. The last time was the Ainge-Durrant-Kite-Roberts era, the true BYU golden age of basketball (still, except for the one run to the Elite 8 I don't think they won an NCAA game). If you bought stock in BYU basketball back around 1-27 and are still holding it, this year might be a good time to look at unloading it. Buy buy buy Utes; that's a good value right now. That's my tip for the day.

The guy that really needs to prove he can win with his own squad is Rose.

you will KILL us in basketball this year. KILL us.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

Trent was a perimeter player in high school who outscored everyone because he was the biggest player on the court who was also the best athlete. He did not get to BYU as a basketball player, but came as a pure athlete. He was also a year younger as he graduated from HS early. As he has physically matured and grown comfortable playing under the basket he is demonstrating skills commensurate to his athleticism. I think he will bolt for the NBA after this year if he keeps playing this well, however I think he needs another year at the college level to develop more of a polished perimeter game. I don't think he will be a back to the basket player at the next level.

I don't expect him to bolt for the NBA. I think there is one or two guys every year that make him painfully aware that he is not ready for the NBA. Instead, I expect he will continue to develop and will have a shot at the next level later. It is important to remember that he is still young enough to not feel the NBA rush. I too project him as an NBA 4 so he needs to develop range.