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Old 11-27-2007, 07:44 PM   #21
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I don't expect him to bolt for the NBA. I think there is one or two guys every year that make him painfully aware that he is not ready for the NBA. Instead, I expect he will continue to develop and will have a shot at the next level later. It is important to remember that he is still young enough to not feel the NBA rush. I too project him as an NBA 4 so he needs to develop range.

If he can develop this year into second round with money not guaranteed and next year into a first rounder, he should wait for guaranteed money.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:48 PM   #22
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Tavernari is a Rose recruit, Murdock is a rose recruit, Fredette, Collinsworth, Loyd, Archie Rose, are also all Rose recruits. Plaisted and Cummard may not be, but I think he has surrounded those two with some good players.

BYU is not going away anytime soon.

2007- Plaisted, Cummard, Tav, Burgess, Murdock
2008- Plaisted, Cummard, Tav, Fredette, Loyd
2009- Miles, Tav, Fredette, Loyd, Emery
2010- Fredette, Loyd, Collinsworth, Emery

Add any other incoming recruits, JC kids, etc, especially if they land a Tyler Haws and they are set for a long time.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:53 PM   #23
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Tavernari is a Rose recruit, Murdock is a rose recruit, Fredette, Collinsworth, Loyd, Archie Rose, are also all Rose recruits. Plaisted and Cummard may not be, but I think he has surrounded those two with some good players.

BYU is not going away anytime soon.

2007- Plaisted, Cummard, Tav, Burgess, Murdock
2008- Plaisted, Cummard, Tav, Fredette, Loyd
2009- Miles, Tav, Fredette, Loyd, Emery
2010- Fredette, Loyd, Collinsworth, Emery

Add any other incoming recruits, JC kids, etc, especially if they land a Tyler Haws and they are set for a long time.

The 07 and 08 guys are a lot better than 09 and 10 on your list. When BYU recruited Plaistead, Cummard, and the other Burgess they were a top 10 recruiting class. I knew they would be good for a while. Look at my posts on CB back when they were freshmen. I said they would be good while the CB nitwits were melting down.
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Old 11-27-2007, 08:10 PM   #24
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The 07 and 08 guys are a lot better than 09 and 10 on your list. When BYU recruited Plaistead, Cummard, and the other Burgess they were a top 10 recruiting class. I knew they would be good for a while. Look at my posts on CB back when they were freshmen. I said they would be good while the CB nitwits were melting down.
But you also said Utah would be good, dumbass.
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But you also said Utah would be good, dumbass.
I always say that, dumbass. It's the one time truth isn't my first priority.
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I always say that, dumbass. It's the one time truth isn't my first priority.
Hey guys, I'd hate to see one of you get your feelings hurt because of the mean names being thrown around on this board. Let's cool it.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:12 PM   #27
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Hey guys, I'd hate to see one of you get your feelings hurt because of the mean names being thrown around on this board. Let's cool it.
I think I speak for both of us when I tell you to piss off, dumbass!
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:00 PM   #29
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In a way Cummard is a Rose recruit.

When Cleveland announced he was leaving, Rose had to really put on a hard sell job for Cummard to stick around.

Kinda like what Giacoletti had to do with Bogut.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:22 PM   #30
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In a way Cummard is a Rose recruit.

When Cleveland announced he was leaving, Rose had to really put on a hard sell job for Cummard to stick around.

Kinda like what Giacoletti had to do with Bogut.
Same with Jackson Emery and Chris Miles.

It is interesting to see how much better the team is. I believe they are also better coached. I wonder if Rose spent a lot of time pissed off and frustrated when he was the assistant. I wonder if he genuinely believed the team could be better with better coaching. His comments about never telling the team they couldn't accomplish greatness seemed to me a rebuke of Cleveland who was more of a tell it like it is in an effort to perhaps dumb down expectations to a more reasonable level. Rose is more in the mold of Bronco and just lays down the expectations even if they are difficult to reach.
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