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Old 02-03-2008, 01:10 AM   #21
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Do you honestly believe that every student in this players ward were attending more than 60% of the time? If not, we would have heard of others getting the boot from that ward. There has to be more to the story.
I had an experience at BYU that makes it easy for me to believe this could happen. And I don't think that in situations like this that everyone is getting the same treatment. This guy's attitude may have been deemed poor and then maybe he gets the stricter treatment. We'll probably never know.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:32 AM   #22
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the worst thing about this is the kid has no recourse. The bishop made up his mind now he is gone. Its one of the many things that piss me off about byu.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:33 AM   #23
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It's kind of weird to go to a school, where your entire education could be ruined by one man.

The reason that it cannot be disputed is because we believe that such decisions come to the Bishop from God.

To have some kind of administrative process as an appeal would be like second-guessing God the Father. And you can't have that.

So there will always be those, that are struck down by God, through his Bishops and other leaders.

Best I can say, is if you are struck down, and you feel you are in the right, try not to be too bitter and move on with your life. The guy probably did your a favor, and you will realize it later.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:36 AM   #24
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It's kind of weird to go to a school, where your entire education could be ruined by one man.

The reason that it cannot be disputed is because we believe that such decisions come to the Bishop from God.

To have some kind of administrative process as an appeal would be like second-guessing God the Father. And you can't have that.

So there will always be those, that are struck down by God, through his Bishops and other leaders.

Best I can say, is if you are struck down, and you feel you are in the right, try not to be too bitter and move on with your life. The guy probably did your a favor, and you will realize it later.
Shouldnt a school that is run by a church claiming to be the true church of christ act in the way that Jesus Christ would act? Would Jesus Christ kick someone out of school because they didnt ask for a calling?
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:06 AM   #25
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Shouldnt a school that is run by a church claiming to be the true church of christ act in the way that Jesus Christ would act? Would Jesus Christ kick someone out of school because they didnt ask for a calling?
It should but some of those BYU bishops are total jackasses. Some are totally cool and some are complete nerds.

The mistake the jocks make is to remain in the wards where the jackasses are. Wayne Childs must be a Ute fan.
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Think about how many bishops they need. Then consider how near the bottom of the barrel they must be scraping to get those numbers.

I don't take the article at face value. However, it does bring up the issue of unrighteous dominion and how it can impact an individual.
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What do they have 14 stakes times 8 wards? or is it 20 stakes?

There is not always equal quality. However, I can see some power manipulative bishop thinking, Jeez I'll show BYU. I'm certain there are BYU hating bishops there. The lone quote attributable to Wayne Mullah Childs, "He didn't even come in to get a calling," tells me all I need to know about the bastard.
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Think about how many bishops they need. Then consider how near the bottom of the barrel they must be scraping to get those numbers.

I don't take the article at face value. However, it does bring up the issue of unrighteous dominion and how it can impact an individual.
My only question is if there is something really serious that the kid did, would he appeal to Samuelson and a GA. Would the athletic department support the kid. I guess the kid could be lieing to everyone and the Bishop has the inspiration to recognize it.
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Wow Kearl is the SP here. He's an Econ prof at BYU and he's a dick. So I believe this story.
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My only question is if there is something really serious that the kid did, would he appeal to Samuelson and a GA. Would the athletic department support the kid. I guess the kid could be lieing to everyone and the Bishop has the inspiration to recognize it.
Read the bishop's quote, "he didn't even come in for a calling."

Gime a break. He's probably going to his girlfriend's ward, and with traveling for sports, doesn't really want a calling. You can be active without having a calling for crying out loud. The bishop is a dick.
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