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Indy Coug · 03-27-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

I really believed when it was announced to redshirt him that the reason was that Rose recognized he had made a huge blunder and he was telling the kid that BYU had screwed up but we would preserve his elgibility and he could transfer to a smaller division to play ball.

Perhaps he will be at BYU but I sense a role player. He will come off the bench to defend really quick pgs that are killing BYU through penetration.

Jimmer is going to start at either the 1 or the 2. Which one it is going to be will be dictated by either the playing shape Jackson Emery is in or by what BYU can attract from the JC ranks.

What exactly is Jackson Emery going to do? He's a defensive role player.

Goatnapper'96 · 03-27-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

What exactly is Jackson Emery going to do? He's a defensive role player.

My guess is play defense and hopefully hit open jumpers. I thought he was pretty decent as a true freshman.

BYU71 · 03-27-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UteStar

This is always dangerous to do, but I am about to do it--look at what he did before he got to the Y.

High School, he earned all-valley honors, and was named the team's most improved player.

Community College:
Freshman year: 3.2 points per game, 2.7 assists
Soph Year: 7.3 points per game, 4.4 assists

It lists him at 5'10" which means that he is probably 2 inches at least shorter. And it does not appear that he was recruited by anyone else. What does this mean? Who knows...but it would take a HUUUUGGGGEEEE leap to think that he is the answer to your Point Guard problems next year. Now watch--kid comes in, pulls an Allen Iverson and is a star. Problem is, nothing on his resume comes close to suggesting that.

Baffling. His numbers don't look that good and yet he was first team all league.

Maybe he can guard someone which would be a big plus for a pt. guard facing the quick point guards we come up against. I think LLoyd really helped us in games against UNM, UNLV and SDSU because of his defense. Also his ability to get the ball up the court quickly.

I will readily admit I am not BB expert. Based on my casual observations, I don't think Jimmer is athletic enough to go up against good defense point guards.

He did shine against UNLV and Texas A&M, but no one else did. What was his assist to turnover ratio.

RockyBalboa · 03-27-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

Baffling. His numbers don't look that good and yet he was first team all league.

Maybe he can guard someone which would be a big plus for a pt. guard facing the quick point guards we come up against. I think LLoyd really helped us in games against UNM, UNLV and SDSU because of his defense. Also his ability to get the ball up the court quickly.

I will readily admit I am not BB expert. Based on my casual observations, I don't think Jimmer is athletic enough to go up against good defense point guards.

He did shine against UNLV and Texas A&M, but no one else did. What was his assist to turnover ratio.

Where I think Jimmer's main weakness is, is his defensive and lateral quickness. For example next year...Wink Adams is going to chew him up and spit him out, simply because Jimmer cannot guard him. This is where I think Lamont Morgan comes in. From what I've been told is that Morgan's best asset is his defense. That's he a very good on the ball defender and the ability to shut down opposing guards.

That is my opinion is what killed us at A&M, and killed us against UNLV. We couldn't stop anyone from penetrating for a better shot or penetrating and dishing. That was our achilles heel on defense last year. We couldn't stop ANYONE in that regard.

Prof-Bball · 03-27-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

He did shine against UNLV and Texas A&M, but no one else did. What was his assist to turnover ratio.

4 assists 1 turnover

MikeWaters · 03-27-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Where I think Jimmer's main weakness is, is his defensive and lateral quickness. For example next year...Wink Adams is going to chew him up and spit him out, simply because Jimmer cannot guard him. This is where I think Lamont Morgan comes in. From what I've been told is that Morgan's best asset is his defense. That's he a very good on the ball defender and the ability to shut down opposing guards.

That is my opinion is what killed us at A&M, and killed us against UNLV. We couldn't stop anyone from penetrating for a better shot or penetrating and dishing. That was our achilles heel on defense last year. We couldn't stop ANYONE in that regard.

When is the last time someone on BYU took a charge? You would think this would be something they could become good at.

RockyBalboa · 03-27-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

When is the last time someone on BYU took a charge? You would think this would be something they could become good at.

Plaisted was actually pretty good at it, and would take 1-2 per game,,,,other than that it's hard to think of others....

Spaz · 03-27-2008, 07:41 PM

I think you'll see a lot of different lineups next year.

-BYU will go big, with Miles, Trent, JT, Lee, & Jimmer all on the floor.
-BYU will go small, with Morgan/Lloyd, Jimmer, Lee, JT, & Trent on the floor.
-BYU may even go extra-small, replacing JT with another guard.

The nice thing about next year's team should be the added flexibility, having so many players that can play more than one position.

I like the O starting up with Jimmer. He may not be the one who brings the ball up the court against pressure, but I like him having the ball in the half-court offense at the top of the key, calling the plays & such.

MikeWaters · 03-27-2008, 07:47 PM

That big lineup might be the slowest in Div 1A basketball.

Spaz · 03-27-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

That big lineup might be the slowest in Div 1A basketball.

I wouldn't expect them to be on the floor much against teams like UNLV...

But they could be effective situationally.

03-27-2008, 07:41 PM	#18
Spaz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,371	I think you'll see a lot of different lineups next year. -BYU will go big, with Miles, Trent, JT, Lee, & Jimmer all on the floor. -BYU will go small, with Morgan/Lloyd, Jimmer, Lee, JT, & Trent on the floor. -BYU may even go extra-small, replacing JT with another guard. The nice thing about next year's team should be the added flexibility, having so many players that can play more than one position. I like the O starting up with Jimmer. He may not be the one who brings the ball up the court against pressure, but I like him having the ball in the half-court offense at the top of the key, calling the plays & such. __________________ "My days of not respecting you are certainly coming to a middle." -Malcolm Reynolds "It doesn't mean that if we lose a game or when we lose a game people won't then jump on and say the quest is over. Because they will. But they've missed the point." -Bronco Mendenhall on "The Quest"

03-27-2008, 07:47 PM	#19
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	That big lineup might be the slowest in Div 1A basketball.