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DrumNFeather · 04-10-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

Trent is a great athlete, perhaps better in perception than reality because there is what one might call a paucity of athletic BYU big men. However, he isn't a great basketball player and his athleticism will be neutralized in the NBA by better athletes.

I want the guy to succeed as a pro and I think he will...just not in the NBA. My guess is that he knows that and will bolt to Europe to play pro. I bet he concludes that he is not NBA material and another year at BYU isn't going to get him any closer. However, he is ready for Europe now and since that is his future, no reason to stay another year at BYU. It won't make him any more money.

I just have to wonder if at some point someone got to him and convinced him that a year of NBA coaching would be better than another year of college coaching.

I've posted this question before to the number of Jazz fans we have on this board:

Would you rather have Fesenko (a project with a year in the NBDL) or a senior in college? (Plaisted, Padget, Nevill, Hansburough, whoever).

Even if Plaisted were to get drafted and sent to the NBDL, there has to be some thought that coaching at the next level would be better for him than what he is currently getting at BYU.

Spaz · 04-10-2008, 05:12 PM

Personally, I think the blue-tinted glasses are having an unusual effect on many BYU fans. Instead of seeing Trent surrounded by a halo of light, like many of us view Collie & Hall, for example, the opposite effect is in play with Trent.

When an NBA scout comes out & says Trent has no chance of playing in the NBA, I'll believe it. Until then, I'll continue to ignore the average wanna-be basketball guru BYU fan.

RockyBalboa · 04-10-2008, 06:05 PM

To announce it while not hiring an agent I think is a wise move on his part.

I think he knows he still has work to do, and will feel out the process and return.

Bank on it.

In fact, I've a very solid source I talked to this morning, that it's a feeling out process more than anything and that he'll be shocked if Trent doesn't withdraw his name near the end of the process.

Goatnapper'96 · 04-10-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

To announce it while not hiring an agent I think is a wise move on his part.

I think he knows he still has work to do, and will feel out the process and return.

Bank on it.

In fact, I've a very solid source I talked to this morning, that it's a feeling out process more than anything and that he'll be shocked if Trent doesn't withdraw his name near the end of the process.

How does him going to Europe work? I agree with respect to him going into the NBA. However, with respect to Europe isn't he basically a free agent and any team could offer him a contract and if he likes it he is gone? Under that scenario he has all spring and summer to pick out a deal he likes.

I think he bolts to Europe this year.

MikeWaters · 04-10-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

How does him going to Europe work? I agree with respect to him going into the NBA. However, with respect to Europe isn't he basically a free agent and any team could offer him a contract and if he likes it he is gone? Under that scenario he has all spring and summer to pick out a deal he likes.

I think he bolts to Europe this year.

I know Idahoans aren't all up to speed on this.

To go to Europe:
1. obtain a contract with a European team
2. get your passport
3. get your visa
4. pack your crap
5. buy a plane ticket
6. make arrangements for shelter in europe
7. fly over

that's as far as I know

il Padrino Ute · 04-10-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

How does him going to Europe work? I agree with respect to him going into the NBA. However, with respect to Europe isn't he basically a free agent and any team could offer him a contract and if he likes it he is gone? Under that scenario he has all spring and summer to pick out a deal he likes.

I think he bolts to Europe this year.

I just don't know if he can get any better with another year at BYU. Mike made a great point about his progression the last three years - it just hasn't been much or at least not as much as it probably should have been.

It would be a smart move on his part to play ball overseas. The kid can make a very nice living by playing ball in Europe and if he makes wise investments with that money, he'll be set for life.

Spaz · 04-10-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

I just don't know if he can get any better with another year at BYU. Mike made a great point about his progression the last three years - it just hasn't been much or at least not as much as it probably should have been.

It would be a smart move on his part to play ball overseas. The kid can make a very nice living by playing ball in Europe and if he makes wise investments with that money, he'll be set for life.

I disagree with the nature of Trent's progression over the last three years. Much of the perceived lack of progression is based on incorrect analysis.

splitbamboo · 04-10-2008, 07:41 PM

What's his competition this year vs. perceived competition next year? The draft is all about who you're up against, not necessarily who you are.

Is there an angle here in that the field is thinner this year?

MikeWaters · 04-10-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaz

I disagree with the nature of Trent's progression over the last three years. Much of the perceived lack of progression is based on incorrect analysis.

During his freshman year, a lot of us thought "this kid could really play in the NBA."

Now after his junior year, many of us cannot see him playing in the NBA, because he doesn't fill a role. He's not a good defender or rebounder. And he has an extremely limited offensive repertoire that will be even less effective in the NBA.

Imagine Plaisted against Garnett, Duncan, or Boozer.

Those of you that follow the NBA closely, is there any 4 that gets playing time in the NBA that plaisted would be better than?

Spaz · 04-10-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

During his freshman year, a lot of us thought "this kid could really play in the NBA."

Now after his junior year, many of us cannot see him playing in the NBA, because he doesn't fill a role. He's not a good defender or rebounder. And he has an extremely limited offensive repertoire that will be even less effective in the NBA.

Imagine Plaisted against Garnett, Duncan, or Boozer.

Those of you that follow the NBA closely, is there any 4 that gets playing time in the NBA that plaisted would be better than?

IMO, a lot of the 'he's not a good defender or rebounder', and the 'he can't compete with NBA players' rhetoric comes from people who have an incorrect understanding of his talents.

I'm not saying he'll be a start in the NBA, or that he'll even get so much as a minute of pt.

I'm simply saying that, for the most part, I trust the majority of the anti-Plaisted-ite's judgement on his NBA-worthiness about as much as I trust the average terrorist.

04-10-2008, 05:12 PM	#12
Spaz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,371	Personally, I think the blue-tinted glasses are having an unusual effect on many BYU fans. Instead of seeing Trent surrounded by a halo of light, like many of us view Collie & Hall, for example, the opposite effect is in play with Trent. When an NBA scout comes out & says Trent has no chance of playing in the NBA, I'll believe it. Until then, I'll continue to ignore the average wanna-be basketball guru BYU fan. __________________ "My days of not respecting you are certainly coming to a middle." -Malcolm Reynolds "It doesn't mean that if we lose a game or when we lose a game people won't then jump on and say the quest is over. Because they will. But they've missed the point." -Bronco Mendenhall on "The Quest"

04-10-2008, 06:05 PM	#13
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	To announce it while not hiring an agent I think is a wise move on his part. I think he knows he still has work to do, and will feel out the process and return. Bank on it. In fact, I've a very solid source I talked to this morning, that it's a feeling out process more than anything and that he'll be shocked if Trent doesn't withdraw his name near the end of the process. __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

04-10-2008, 07:41 PM	#18
splitbamboo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 144	What's his competition this year vs. perceived competition next year? The draft is all about who you're up against, not necessarily who you are. Is there an angle here in that the field is thinner this year?