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creekster · 05-14-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

This is typical. In "Wilt" Chamberlain describes the typical uninformed fan's bigotry against taller playes. See also, Stockton and Malone.

Wilt said "No one roots for Goliath." TP was tall but he was no Wilt/Goliath.

jay santos · 05-14-2008, 10:04 PM

What are the rules on an underclassmen that makes himself available to the draft but doesn't sign with agent? Does he have to go pro if he is drafted? Does it matter if he is first or second round?

Flystripper · 05-14-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

What are the rules on an underclassmen that makes himself available to the draft but doesn't sign with agent? Does he have to go pro if he is drafted? Does it matter if he is first or second round?

I think there is a point of no return just prior to the draft but after the draft camps and workouts.

il Padrino Ute · 05-14-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

What are the rules on an underclassmen that makes himself available to the draft but doesn't sign with agent? Does he have to go pro if he is drafted? Does it matter if he is first or second round?

As long as the player doesn't sign with an agent, he can return to school.

If he's drafted in the first round, he has a guaranteed contract. No guarantee for a 2nd rounder.

I may be wrong, but this is my understanding.

TheSizzle36 · 05-14-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

What are the rules on an underclassmen that makes himself available to the draft but doesn't sign with agent? Does he have to go pro if he is drafted? Does it matter if he is first or second round?

If they declare, but do not hire an agent, they can return to school. Something similar happened with Larry Bird... he was actually drafted by the Celtics in 1978, played his last year at Indiana State, and then went on to Boston starting in 1979.

If they are drafted, agent or not, their rights are owned by the team that picked them for a certain period of time.

As Il Pad said, 1st rounders have a guaranteed contract. 2nd rounders do not.

MikeWaters · 05-14-2008, 10:31 PM

I thought that there is a do or die date right before the draft.

Once the draft arrives, agent or not, you lose your eligibility.

jay santos · 05-15-2008, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I thought that there is a do or die date right before the draft.

Once the draft arrives, agent or not, you lose your eligibility.

Someone please weigh in who knows for sure. My understanding was that if they go in the draft and are drafted, they're no longer eligible for college. But if they go undrafted, they can go back. But I don't know. I also thought maybe there was a difference in 1st round and 2nd round, i.e. picked in 1st round, you have to go, picked in 2nd round, you can not sign with the team and go back to college. I'm pretty sure things have changed since Larry Bird, though.

MikeWaters · 05-15-2008, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

Someone please weigh in who knows for sure. My understanding was that if they go in the draft and are drafted, they're no longer eligible for college. But if they go undrafted, they can go back. But I don't know. I also thought maybe there was a difference in 1st round and 2nd round, i.e. picked in 1st round, you have to go, picked in 2nd round, you can not sign with the team and go back to college. I'm pretty sure things have changed since Larry Bird, though.

I'm very sure you are wrong. Try to name one player who came back after a draft. Because there is no one.

MikeWaters · 05-15-2008, 03:20 AM

Actually I believe I am wrong.

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12.2.4.2.1 Exception—Professional Basketball Draft—Four-Year College Student-Athlete.
An enrolled student-athlete in basketball may enter a professional league’s draft one time during his or her
collegiate career without jeopardizing eligibility in that sport, provided the student-athlete is not drafted
by any team in that league and the student-athlete declares his or her intention to resume intercollegiate
participation within 30 days after the draft. The student-athlete’s declaration of intent shall be in writing to
the institution’s director of athletics. (Adopted: 1/11/94; Revised: 1/10/95,1/14/97 effective 4/16/97, 4/24/03
effective 8/1/03 for student-athletes entering a collegiate institution on or after 8/1/03)

non sequitur · 05-15-2008, 08:19 AM

When they first made the rule that you could come back to college if you didn't hire an agent, you could go through the draft and then go back to school. The team that drafted you would retain your rights. They changed the rule a few years ago, so that you had to withdraw before the draft if you wanted to return to school.

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non sequitur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,964	When they first made the rule that you could come back to college if you didn't hire an agent, you could go through the draft and then go back to school. The team that drafted you would retain your rights. They changed the rule a few years ago, so that you had to withdraw before the draft if you wanted to return to school. __________________ ...You've been under attack for days, there's a soldier down, he's wounded, gangrene's setting in, 'Who's used all the penicillin?' 'Oh, Mark Paxson sir, he's got knob rot off of some tart.'" - Gareth Keenan

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jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	What are the rules on an underclassmen that makes himself available to the draft but doesn't sign with agent? Does he have to go pro if he is drafted? Does it matter if he is first or second round?

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MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I thought that there is a do or die date right before the draft. Once the draft arrives, agent or not, you lose your eligibility.